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[Hornet85]

Dont forget the foward missile defence USA is puting up in Europe to

Russia is geting realy pissed

[BigglesTrevor]

find it hard to see why....... i mean its not a threat to them, its a counter measure.

[D@V£]

I find it painfully hilarious that you seem to be of the theory that Russia doesn't have the capablity to send the entire planet back prehistory.

[Wittmann]

Not as efficiently as they once could have however. The Russian's have alot of material strength and thats about it.

[BigglesTrevor]

all i know is they have lots of crazy special forces. thats enough to scare me. There like the mexican vampires from american dad.

[Deadeye]

How many counter -rockets will be stationed in Europe? 8?

[Hornet85]

10 interceptor rockets in Poland.
Directed by the tracking radar in the Czech Republic.
And a final defence line in the United States.

They say this is agains terrorism but hmm Poland? Only Russian missiles will pass ther...

[Deadeye]

10 interceptor rockets in Poland.
Directed by the tracking radar in the Czech Republic.
And a final defence line in the United States.

They say this is agains terrorism but hmm Poland? Only Russian missiles will pass ther...

I don't think those rockets can only intercept within poland.

ANd 10 rockets? They'll surely stop ANY russian strike

[Hornet85]

ye sure they can intercept over other countrys to but wy not place like 5 in Polen and 5 in Turkey or something?

With all of them in the same place it cant be to hard to send in the elite sf to take them out
(Need to write a risk assessment on that XD)

[JdB]

ye sure they can intercept over other countrys to but wy not place like 5 in Polen and 5 in Turkey or something?

With all of them in the same place it cant be to hard to send in the elite sf to take them out
(Need to write a risk assessment on that XD)

That's why they're placing them in at least two different countries, and probably more in the future.

These missiles can intercept far beyond the national borders (and probably even continental borders), making the worldwide spread of them unnecessary, contrary to some Cold War era systems like nukes that were stationed in countries like Turkey. Perhaps this shield is being placed near Russia because the US has long feared that Soviet nukes will end up being sold by base-commanders to, or stolen by terrorists, since these installations are no where near as guarded as they once were. Also countries like Pakistan where the US has invested over 100 million dollars in the last few years to upgrade security for their nukes with things like helicopters, night vision equipment and training to keep their nukes safe.

[Avalla'ch]

I just think that we dont need it here

[Hornet85]

Russia will continue rising the combat readiness of its strategic nuclear forces to be able to strike a fast and adequate blow on any aggressor, Vladimir Putin stated during a meeting at the Defense Ministry. “Russia can not stay indifferent to NATO’s obvious “muscle-flexing” near the borders of the Russian Federation,” the president said.

http://english.pravda.ru/russia/kremlin/20.../101245-putin-0

They can say what they want but this will make the cold war alitle hoter haha

[Avalla'ch]

you guys think that Europe NEED those rockets ?
Just asking, I am not russian fan or something similiar....

[Hornet85]

no i dont think the world needs nukes at all but they are here so.
If some one in a russian silo flips over after some vodka it will feel good to have the missiles.
and it dont have to be a ICBM a Scud luncher will do harm to

[BigglesTrevor]

i dont think there necisary. Comon guys do you really think Russia is going to launch a blitskrieg across Europe? There just desperatly trying to cling onto world power status which they have all but lost. There world class status is so last decade, there the 21st century Britain.

[Blackbuck]

They could if they got their act together be a quite important nation but atm they are facing problems which slowly appear to be getting better. As for the missile system I disagree with with it totally. I hate the way that America on behalf of say NATO or the UN puts things in other countries to save their own asses

[Elliot Carver]

lo folks,

HH got it spot on there. Son of Starwars Defence System is a relic of the 'original' cold war that Bush senior is getting sonny boy to finish off. What is the point in having a missile defence system on our soil thats only there to protect the states? Ironic that they started the whole thing in the first place.
Russia might be a little poor but they have got the right attitudes when it comes to standing up to the USA!

cheers

[D@V£]

tbh, I think Vlad just wants Bush to get angry
I mean, we've seen Mr Bush's solution to all his other problems so far, it's about time someone put the US in their place.

I wouldn't be surprised if you could make missiles that either couldn't be detected by starwars or were capable of evading antimissiles somehow though, AI and all that. We should really consider building some....

[Elliot Carver]

D@V£: The USA is developing the hypersonic scram jet engine (explained). Imagine a crusie missile that flies at mach 7. By the time your defence system has reacted to the incomeing threat ie fired a missile the target is out of range. Also for defensive purposes the US has developed laser technology desgned to shoot down fast moving inbound missiles. Called the "Airbone Laser" Boeing basically put a massive high-energy laser weapon system on a jumbo jet for the destruction of tactical theatre ballistic missiles. (cut-away)
It is said that the Russians have their own versions but we dont know.
Cheers

[D@V£]

And I suppose they're going to have these aircraft in the skys 24 hours a day accross every bit of the entire planet? Now, normally I wouldn't object to that, but you can't stick a nuclear reactor on a plane! It'd be too heavy!

I would guess the Russian's might have thier own versions, but ultimately, would they need them? It's always seemed to be the Russian's style to stupid jump into new investments and tend to just employ huge amounts of what they've already got. Which is probabley a better idea than wasting shitloads on the cutting edge specialist combat headwear when a steel helmet from WW2 does just as well. When push comes to shove, I'd hazard a guess that if you aren't talking bombers and ICBMs, then the Russian's probabley have still got a good bit more shove than the Americans. If not in quality of design, then at least in numbers.