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Posted by: King Homer Nov 5 2006, 12:05

Feel free to discuss Armed Assault here in general.

You can post Reviews, Tests and other Feedback.

Tell us what you expect and what you think about the game. Tell us your opinions if you played the game already and what give feedback what should/could/can be changed or what's very good or not that good.

Please refrain from posting any major Story-Spoilers after the release of Armed Assault.

Posted by: Serial Killer Nov 6 2006, 01:21

I heard it's out in five days... And I also heard a demo would be published before it's release. Isn't it gonna be a bit too late? blink.gif

...or have I missed something? ohno-smiley.gif

Posted by: King Homer Nov 6 2006, 05:31

Releasedate is 10. November in the Czech Republic. I guess the demo will be released after that, same method as it was the case by OFP:Res.

Posted by: Serial Killer Nov 6 2006, 09:27

Ah, I see.

I can't believe it's out so soon... I hope everything's as I've been expecting.

Posted by: Cappa Nov 6 2006, 12:17

Hope soo,too! I wouldn't like to wait for ten patches until I can play the game without bugs.But OFP was nearly without bugs so I think ArmA will be the same.
If there will be patches...just for new vehicles and missions please graduated.gif

Posted by: King Homer Nov 6 2006, 17:18

If it is easy to convert existing OFP addons to Arma, we'll have tons of addons within weeks. And every addon with new, nice graphic effects, bumpmapping, and cool new scripts.

Posted by: x-ray Nov 6 2006, 19:19

*dreams of BW@DVD CTI in ArmA* w00t.gif

Posted by: NeMeSiS Nov 6 2006, 20:59

QUOTE(Serial Killer @ Nov 6 2006, 01:21) *

I heard it's out in five days... And I also heard a demo would be published before it's release. Isn't it gonna be a bit too late? blink.gif

...or have I missed something? ohno-smiley.gif



BI wont start working on the demo until the gold version is ready.

Posted by: x-ray Nov 6 2006, 21:09

QUOTE(NeMeSiS @ Nov 6 2006, 20:59) *

BI wont start working on the demo until the gold version is ready.


But when it will be released on 10th Nov the Gold Version is already done imho

Posted by: Cervo Nov 7 2006, 01:30

yes it is already done (at least the Czech version)!

Posted by: NeMeSiS Nov 7 2006, 14:53

QUOTE(x-ray @ Nov 6 2006, 21:09) *

But when it will be released on 10th Nov the Gold Version is already done imho


Well that means they started working on it, but we dont know when they will finish the demo wink.gif
(I guess we will see it in 1 or 2 weeks smile.gif )

Posted by: King Homer Nov 7 2006, 14:55

Hopefully before the release of ArmA in Germany.

Posted by: x-ray Nov 7 2006, 15:54

QUOTE(NeMeSiS @ Nov 7 2006, 14:53) *

Well that means they started working on it, but we dont know when they will finish the demo wink.gif
(I guess we will see it in 1 or 2 weeks smile.gif )

Haven't said anything else tongue.gif

Posted by: NeMeSiS Nov 7 2006, 17:00

Seems like it went gold today (according to 2 german gamesites) laugh.gif

Posted by: x-ray Nov 7 2006, 17:28

Yea, read that too dance.gif

Posted by: King Homer Nov 7 2006, 18:41

Yeah, let's have a party. Finally, after more than 4 years of waiting the successor of lovely OFP is coming. I'm happy like a little child!!! drunk.gif


Posted by: CoPèTe Nov 7 2006, 19:42

I am very happy for the German boppin2.gif but I am very jealous because we, french, will only be able to buy in February... angry.gif

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 7 2006, 23:51

german version is gold yes? and english on it too "apparently"

btw hey everone! great site

Posted by: King Homer Nov 8 2006, 06:56

QUOTE(CoPèTe @ Nov 7 2006, 19:42) *

I am very happy for the German boppin2.gif but I am very jealous because we, french, will only be able to buy in February... angry.gif


Nevermind, if ArmA will be sold as multilangualversion you can buy it aswell. smile.gif And I guess it will be like that, because I want to play it in English not in German.

Posted by: Rewan Nov 8 2006, 08:37

I think it going to have only german....sub-titles, titles and all the stuff. But for voice it will be in English wink.gif

Posted by: Wittmann Nov 8 2006, 13:51

Talk is a patch will bring the German version up to date with a multilingual capability. Even so, if it does not happen I will just buy a second 505 copy, I will get a German copy smile.gif Deadeye or Homer expect an email tongue.gif

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 8 2006, 14:21

yeh, germany is going to see large economic growth in the next few weeks from deperate ArmA fans, lets hope theres enough to go around. i think i will use ebay depending on availability. otherwise i *might* have to entrust my money with x-ray or somthing.

Posted by: Deadeye Nov 8 2006, 14:30


QUOTE(King Homer @ Nov 8 2006, 06:56) *

Nevermind, if ArmA will be sold as multilangualversion you can buy it aswell. smile.gif And I guess it will be like that, because I want to play it in English not in German.


exactly, I never played the german version on german. It's horrible

Posted by: King Homer Nov 8 2006, 14:34

QUOTE(Rewan @ Nov 8 2006, 08:37) *

I think it going to have only german....sub-titles, titles and all the stuff. But for voice it will be in English wink.gif



Why should they? I mean OFP came in a multilangual version so should ArmA.

Posted by: Deadeye Nov 8 2006, 15:47

QUOTE(King Homer @ Nov 8 2006, 14:34) *

Why should they? I mean OFP came in a multilangual version so should ArmA.


ArmA will be in a way Multi language wink.gif

QUOTE
The Multiplayer section is in english for the sake of international players.

Singleplayer is German/English – Texts are in German but voices in English !

The menu, so GUI, are in german but this should not be a problem due to the analogy of the German/English languages.

Posted by: Rewan Nov 8 2006, 18:35

QUOTE
I mean OFP came in a multilangual version so should ArmA.
Yes but he was published only by Cod-masters not by the lot of publisher we got for ArmA wink.gif

Posted by: King Homer Nov 8 2006, 19:13

Indeed, that's shit. Probably ArmA will come with a bad German translation.

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 8 2006, 19:56

IPB Image

found it on the BI forums, bravo 6's find. good advertising! laugh.gif

original source is http://www.armamods.net/index.php?ind=blog&op=home&idu=2

few new pics about

http://www.pcgames.de/screenshots/medium/armed_assault013.jpg

IPB Image

IPB Image

IPB Image

IPB Image

face templates also given, so you can make your own faces now before release http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=5;t=50524;hl=new;st=405

http://www.2and2.net/Uploads/Images/ArmA_face.jpg

(100kb i think :/)

last but not least, artially screen! http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/SANY9143.JPG

after some frantic searching for one vid everyone was talking about, i found it! and alot more!

seeveral newish vids

http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9009.MOV

http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9010.MOV (notice broken bino anim!)

http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9011.MOV

http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9012.MOV

http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9013.MOV

http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9014.MOV

http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9015.MOV (water towers)

http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9016.MOV

http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9018.MOV

http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9019.MOV

http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9020.MOV

http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9021.MOV

http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9022.MOV




trevor breaths

Posted by: Serial Killer Nov 8 2006, 21:43

QUOTE(BigglesTrevor @ Nov 8 2006, 20:56) *

seeveral newish vids

http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9009.MOV

http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9010.MOV (notice broken bino anim!)

http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9011.MOV

http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9012.MOV

http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9013.MOV

http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9014.MOV

http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9015.MOV (water towers)

http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9016.MOV

http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9018.MOV

http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9019.MOV

http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9020.MOV


http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9021.MOV

http://file.benutzer.ru/files/Armed%20Assault/IgroMir2006/Flashpoint.ru%20Team/November%2005/VCLP9022.MOV
trevor breaths


How can I watch videos that are in MOV format?

Posted by: Sniperwolf572 Nov 8 2006, 21:52

Quicktime, Quicktime Alternative or VLC player. (I recommend VLC, along with fddshow codecs)

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 8 2006, 22:56

i like the burnt out veicle effect and i like the way grass cleared by explosions.

Posted by: King Homer Nov 8 2006, 23:14

Well, even if it was under 100 KB, it exceeded the size of the forum layout so I made a link out of that ArmA face.

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 8 2006, 23:49

QUOTE(King Homer @ Nov 8 2006, 22:14) *

Well, even if it was under 100 KB, it exceeded the size of the forum layout so I made a link out of that ArmA face.


yes i thought it might be too big but wasnt 100% sure. Do you think they have intergrated an artiallry system into ArmA? otherwise it seems like a waste of time. blink.gif

Posted by: x-ray Nov 8 2006, 23:54

QUOTE(BigglesTrevor @ Nov 8 2006, 23:49) *

yes i thought it might be too big but wasnt 100% sure. Do you think they have intergrated an artiallry system into ArmA? otherwise it seems like a waste of time. blink.gif


Even if they haven't implemented one, it won't take long and CoC UA is converted to ArmA imho w00t.gif

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 8 2006, 23:59

QUOTE(x-ray @ Nov 8 2006, 22:54) *

Even if they haven't implemented one, it won't take long and CoC UA is converted to ArmA imho w00t.gif


i guess so, but it would be really cool to see ai using it against you. im really looking forward to the campaign if stuff like that is in. it looks so flexable. Theres also supposed to be a much larger civilan presence in comparison to OFP.

Posted by: Serial Killer Nov 9 2006, 08:05

http://ofp.gamepark.cz/news/pics3/pcgde3.jpg

6-color-desert camo isn't used by the US Army anymore, now isn't it? I wonder what those guys are... w00t.gif

Posted by: King Homer Nov 9 2006, 08:39

South Saharani Army. wink.gif

Posted by: Serial Killer Nov 9 2006, 08:43

QUOTE(King Homer @ Nov 9 2006, 09:39) *

South Saharani Army. wink.gif


Ah, I see.

They look very interresting. I can't wait to play with them. sweatingbullets.gif

Posted by: King Homer Nov 9 2006, 08:51

Yes me neither, 21 days to go. laugh.gif

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 9 2006, 09:58

have we seen any pictures of north sahrini troops with chinstraps? i heard they were putting that in...

Posted by: Serial Killer Nov 9 2006, 16:29

QUOTE(BigglesTrevor @ Nov 9 2006, 10:58) *

have we seen any pictures of north sahrini troops with chinstraps? i heard they were putting that in...


http://ofp.gamepark.cz/news/pics3/armbeta8.jpg Comes from the helmet so it wont fall off the head. Or what did you mean exactly?

Posted by: Rewan Nov 9 2006, 17:19

I've heard ArmA will use a Starforce protection system...is that true ?

Posted by: NeMeSiS Nov 9 2006, 17:22

QUOTE(Rewan @ Nov 9 2006, 17:19) *

I've heard ArmA will use a Starforce protection system...is that true ?



The Czech/Russian version will, the german version wont, for the area's where 505 will publish its currently unknown

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 9 2006, 18:22

QUOTE(Serial Killer @ Nov 9 2006, 15:29) *

http://ofp.gamepark.cz/news/pics3/armbeta8.jpg Comes from the helmet so it wont fall off the head. Or what did you mean exactly?


ahh ty, yes i wanted chinstraps in becuase they didnt use to have them. cool smile.gif

Posted by: Serial Killer Nov 11 2006, 18:15

Still no demo and it's released already in Czech Rebuplic. I'm getting worried! cry3.gif

Posted by: NeMeSiS Nov 11 2006, 19:03

QUOTE(Serial Killer @ Nov 11 2006, 18:15) *

Still no demo and it's released already in Czech Rebuplic. I'm getting worried! cry3.gif


Worried about what? Placebo said that it will be weeks (at least 2, at most 10^99) until the demo will be released blues.gif

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 11 2006, 20:37

yes demo will be released with german launch. Placbo also still said there still working on new stuff!

Posted by: NeMeSiS Nov 11 2006, 22:51

QUOTE(BigglesTrevor @ Nov 11 2006, 20:37) *

yes demo will be released with german launch.


The only thing Placebo said about the demo was this

QUOTE
Just to confirm, Czech and German versions are gold, Russian and Polish aren't quite there yet, when all four of the "Eastern" versions are gold then work will start on the demo, so don't expect it in a few days, it will take weeks not days for the demo to be complete.


There is NO releasedate for the demo.

Posted by: Sniperwolf572 Nov 11 2006, 23:03

Someone hand me a napkin or something, all the info being fed to the community in the last few days is astonishing.

Hopefully I can save up enough cash to buy the 505 special edition. __glurps.gif

Posted by: King Homer Nov 12 2006, 01:33

Okay, just tested OFP with my new rig - incredible. With Ultra high landscape detail and AA & AF at maximum. Hopefully ArmA will look the same.

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 12 2006, 02:24

QUOTE(King Homer @ Nov 12 2006, 00:33) *

Okay, just tested OFP with my new rig - incredible. With Ultra high landscape detail and AA & AF at maximum. Hopefully ArmA will look the same.


what view distance are you running on? i wonder if a pc will ever be made that can handle OFP on full view distance.....

Posted by: da rat Nov 12 2006, 02:28

QUOTE(BigglesTrevor @ Nov 12 2006, 01:24) *

what view distance are you running on? i wonder if a pc will ever be made that can handle OFP on full view distance.....

I second that. I'm hoping my new rig will be able to give a damn good shot at it though!
@Homer, what are your full system specs now?

Posted by: Serial Killer Nov 12 2006, 02:28

QUOTE(BigglesTrevor @ Nov 12 2006, 03:24) *

i wonder if a pc will ever be made that can handle OFP on full view distance.....


My PC works all fine with the full view distance tongue.gif

My specs are:-
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Socket 939, 512Mb RAM DDR1, ATI 9600 pro. graphics card, 160GT SATA hard disc.

Was kinda off-topic but don't kill me mf_hide.gif

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 12 2006, 02:31

im still mighty impressed with the view distance in ArmA

http://www.sniperfans.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2556

Posted by: da rat Nov 12 2006, 02:37

I NEED to glide that in some kind of Sailplane... Copy of rolleyes.gif

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 12 2006, 02:38

sopwith camel is basicly a glider laugh.gif. (see top pictures in combat photograhpy)

Posted by: LooseKannon Nov 12 2006, 02:42

Niiiiiccee view distance in that one. But, 14 FPS! Not so nice... ohno-smiley.gif

I hope that ArmA will have the possibility to dig in. I don't think it will but, blues.gif

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 12 2006, 02:43

QUOTE(LooseKannon @ Nov 12 2006, 01:42) *

Niiiiiccee view distance in that one. But, 14 FPS! Not so nice... ohno-smiley.gif

I hope that ArmA will have the possibility to dig in. I don't think it will but, blues.gif


sounds like game 2 to me, but lets see what the communtiy can produce!

Posted by: da rat Nov 12 2006, 02:47

QUOTE(BigglesTrevor @ Nov 12 2006, 01:43) *

sounds like game 2 to me, but lets see what the communtiy can produce!

*agrees*
Still, they managed to make 3dish craters! Who knows naughty.gif

Posted by: d@nte Nov 12 2006, 03:20

i'm an ECP addict, and i just want to know if Arma have some features like ECP. i mean flies on dead bodies, the bots who talk etc

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 12 2006, 03:23

QUOTE(d@nte @ Nov 12 2006, 02:20) *

i'm an ECP addict, and i just want to know if Arma have some features like ECP. i mean flies on dead bodies, the bots who talk etc


i think flys were in, i definatly remember reading about flys and butterflys. talking i would say no. i loved men getting out of tank on fire. would be great to see that in ArmA.

Posted by: Serial Killer Nov 12 2006, 03:25

QUOTE(d@nte @ Nov 12 2006, 04:20) *

i'm an ECP addict, and i just want to know if Arma have some features like ECP. i mean flies on dead bodies, the bots who talk etc


Well OFP:Elite already had flies, birds and stuff, so surely ArmA will have some too smile.gif

Posted by: da rat Nov 12 2006, 03:25

QUOTE(BigglesTrevor @ Nov 12 2006, 02:23) *

i think flys were in, i definatly remember reading about flys and butterflys. talking i would say no. i loved men getting out of tank on fire. would be great to see that in ArmA.

And with their awesome new fire effect dance.gif Would look superb!

Posted by: d@nte Nov 12 2006, 03:26

yeah, it's really funny to see these poor guys. rofl.gif and their cries are so cool too tongue.gif

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 12 2006, 03:29

QUOTE(d@nte @ Nov 12 2006, 02:26) *

yeah, it's really funny to see these poor guys. rofl.gif and their cries are so cool too tongue.gif


i normally shoot them in pity sad.gif. still even if this is not implemented, i hear ECP are still around naughty.gif

Posted by: da rat Nov 12 2006, 03:33

QUOTE(BigglesTrevor @ Nov 12 2006, 02:29) *

i normally shoot them in pity sad.gif. still even if this is not implemented, i hear ECP are still around naughty.gif


QUOTE(Saving Private Ryan @ The bunker part of D-Day) *

Don't shoot!! Let 'em burn!!


It would be awesome for lots of the ECP stuff to be implemented at some stage... I really hope theyre willing to do it graduated.gif

Posted by: LooseKannon Nov 12 2006, 03:40

I would suggest that once we actually get the game and walk around we should see some of the ECP features, IE talking bots, getting out of tanks on fire, etc. We'll see wink.gif

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 12 2006, 03:42

QUOTE(LooseKannon @ Nov 12 2006, 02:40) *

I would suggest that once we actually get the game and walk around we should see some of the ECP features, IE talking bots, getting out of tanks on fire, etc. We'll see wink.gif


i might ask on the bi forums. those who have the game have been pretty helpful so far.

Posted by: LooseKannon Nov 12 2006, 04:00

While your at it, get them to register on this forum! wink.gif

Posted by: Nik Nov 12 2006, 06:32

I just hope it dosen't get slated in English game magazines. Not that it will all round but that Czech one that gave it 55% was a bit of a surprise to me.

Posted by: Elliot Carver Nov 12 2006, 06:41

lo dudes,

55%? Probably becuase they are basing their reviews on the competition, BF2. I doubt they liked the realism ie: 1 hit kill, or the fact that they cant pick up medipacks smile.gif. You can always tell a good game mag here in the UK cos it will tell you about the game and where its strenths are. Unlike some which are only interested in graphics and killing ... like BF2.

If anything a bit of a low review wouldntbe too bad for the game. It will keep all the 14 yearold noobs out smile.gif

rock on folks,

carver

Posted by: Nik Nov 12 2006, 09:11

true smile.gif

Posted by: King Homer Nov 12 2006, 09:14

55%? I really don't care about this judgement. The best judgement is still my own.

I'll see if it's good or not so good. But I pretend it will be perfect smile.gif

Posted by: LooseKannon Nov 12 2006, 10:36

Do we know yet if, when a tank is hit with a shell/RPG, will it be the same effects in OFP? (ie go black and blow up) or will it be immobalized, turret blow off, etc?

Posted by: King Homer Nov 12 2006, 11:03

Didn't see anything like this yet. Maybe someone will post a picture of that in BIS forum.
But hopefully the damage model is somewhat better than in OFP.

Posted by: da rat Nov 12 2006, 11:11

I heard somewhere that the tracks can get blown off at least.. Not sure if it's true though

Posted by: King Homer Nov 12 2006, 11:34

Any sources? Please backup such statements.

Posted by: da rat Nov 12 2006, 11:38

QUOTE(King Homer @ Nov 12 2006, 10:34) *

Any sources? Please backup such statements.

I'm sorry, I have no idea where I read it.. Thinking about it now though, I doubt it will be implemented... It would mean them having to work on all the individual animations or whatnot for each vehicle on top of other effects such as blackening and burning.. Looks like we'll just have to ask some Czech owner if he could confirm sweatingbullets.gif

Posted by: King Homer Nov 12 2006, 11:51

Well, then it's your job to ask. Send a PM to any of the ArmA owners and we'll see!

Posted by: Antipop Nov 12 2006, 11:55

That would be extremely cool if that could happen. My favourite feature is the 'grass' not just plan old textured ground, but 3D grass.. w00t.. tongue.gif

Posted by: da rat Nov 12 2006, 12:02

It' bound to get asked on the BI forums soon enough (and I don't speak Czech! tongue.gif )

Posted by: Linker Split Nov 12 2006, 12:10

As I saw the command references of ArmA, new commands will be implemented... why not use some VBS1 ones?

Posted by: da rat Nov 12 2006, 12:17

http://www.volny.cz/darklinx/store/ArmA.avi Copy of rolleyes.gif
She's just beautiful! And look at that washing machine! w00t.gif

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 12 2006, 12:22

QUOTE(Elliot Carver @ Nov 12 2006, 05:41) *

lo dudes,

55%? Probably becuase they are basing their reviews on the competition, BF2. I doubt they liked the realism ie: 1 hit kill, or the fact that they cant pick up medipacks smile.gif. You can always tell a good game mag here in the UK cos it will tell you about the game and where its strenths are. Unlike some which are only interested in graphics and killing ... like BF2.

If anything a bit of a low review wouldntbe too bad for the game. It will keep all the 14 yearold noobs out smile.gif

rock on folks,

carver


i expect a good review from PC gamer UK. they loved OFP, they love games like hidden and dangerous 2. There also open to all games, and have individual journalists for each genre.

btw nice vid da rat

Posted by: Linker Split Nov 12 2006, 12:23

yeah, really good!!!!!!!! w00t.gif

Posted by: NeMeSiS Nov 12 2006, 13:08

QUOTE
What a beaut
She's just beautiful! And look at that washing machine!


http://www.24godziny.f2z.pl/upload/siege-movies.zip

And the other 3...
Now i really want to have ArmA -.-'

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 12 2006, 13:33

ouch headshots look painful!

theres alot of complainging going on about the voice acting, i thought it sounded quite nice on that vidio

Posted by: King Homer Nov 12 2006, 14:18

QUOTE(NeMeSiS @ Nov 12 2006, 13:08) *

http://www.24godziny.f2z.pl/upload/siege-movies.zip

And the other 3...
Now i really want to have ArmA -.-'



I second that. I want it now __glurps.gif

Posted by: Serial Killer Nov 12 2006, 14:37

Bloody hell, that's awesome!

I see they removed that "feature" that makes the crosshair to be in the middle of the screen all the time, good. Makes it realistic.

Did any of you notice he got injured when destroying the tractors even he was behind the wall? I thought they would fix it sad.gif

Posted by: Sniperwolf572 Nov 12 2006, 15:01

QUOTE(Serial Killer @ Nov 12 2006, 14:37) *

I see they removed that "feature" that makes the crosshair to be in the middle of the screen all the time, good. Makes it realistic.


Well, as far as I know, you can choose how leeway you want to give the crosshair. It can even be static.

Posted by: Helping Hand Nov 12 2006, 16:52

good for the FPS people new to the OFP / ArmA genre then

Posted by: Linker Split Nov 12 2006, 22:30

QUOTE(Serial Killer @ Nov 12 2006, 14:37) *

Did any of you notice he got injured when destroying the tractors even he was behind the wall? I thought they would fix it sad.gif


So far, Newton don't want to play with ArmA... sad.gif FIX IT!!!!!!! It can't be possible that a man behind a wall would get some dammage! __glurps.gif

Posted by: King Homer Nov 12 2006, 22:38

I always play without, so hopefully you can disable the crosshair.

Posted by: brataccas Nov 12 2006, 23:24

downloading those vids now... IPB Image

edit: OMFG!!!!!! the tractor vid! ! ! u hear that awesome explosion and then you hear the echo of the explosion in the distance! ! freakin awesome w00t.gif w00t.gif w00t.gif w00t.gif w00t.gif w00t.gif w00t.gif

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 12 2006, 23:54

QUOTE(Linker Split @ Nov 12 2006, 21:30) *

So far, Newton don't want to play with ArmA... sad.gif FIX IT!!!!!!! It can't be possible that a man behind a wall would get some dammage! __glurps.gif


maybe if a brick was to fly out.... tongue.gif, no i agree, that should be fixable with relatice ease i should have thought.

the vids nemesis put up are great!

Posted by: Elliot Carver Nov 13 2006, 05:43

Loveing the good videos. Echo was sweet as was the dust kicked up from driving across the sand on previos video. Shame about the damage through walls although recoshay (*sp) could be attributed to it? Seen enough youtube videos of car bombs detonating and us guys getting showered with debris 3-4 hundred feet away.

Thing i just thought of...Seeing that the blowing up house animation leaves the house completely flat, were gunna be able to completlely flatten an entire city as if it wernt there lmao.

Whats with BIS and the Biplane (sopwith camel)? They released one for ofp now they put one in ArmA too? lol Flight sim X came out last month tongue.gif

Posted by: King Homer Nov 13 2006, 06:24

QUOTE(brataccas @ Nov 12 2006, 23:24) *

downloading those vids now... IPB Image

edit: OMFG!!!!!! the tractor vid! ! ! u hear that awesome explosion and then you hear the echo of the explosion in the distance! ! freakin awesome w00t.gif w00t.gif w00t.gif w00t.gif w00t.gif w00t.gif w00t.gif



Dude, read the rules and do me favor, write in normal English. You can use the kindergarten language in OT2 but not here.

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§7)Write in English
As this is the English part of the board please write in English. Try avoiding writing in any other language since the majority of the members most likely won't understand.
Please avoid using short forms of words e.g. "m8" instead of mate, "u r" instead of you are or your, it may seem attractive to type in such a "shorthand" manner but remember that there are many people on the forums who do not have English as a first language, so it is disrespectful to use bad English simply for the sake of laziness. (Obviously there are common shortenings of words that have been used for many years on the internet that continue to be acceptable, e.g. LMAO, LOL, FYI etc.)

Posted by: Nik Nov 13 2006, 07:06

Im going to download these too, they sound good from the other posts here.

Posted by: Serial Killer Nov 13 2006, 07:52

I saw some BDU and 3-color-desert camo units on a few old screenshots. Are they really included in the game or were they just old WIP screenshots? I want the BDU units so badly because I don't like ACU... thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

Posted by: d@nte Nov 13 2006, 08:12

these videos are really awesome, can't wait for Arma. it's a shame, that they let to us wait tongue.gif

i don't like the tractors explosion. that seems like in ofp. and the fire is not really nice. ohno-smiley.gif the sf explosion in the town, wow really amazing, the town is wonderful. w00t.gif

Posted by: Serial Killer Nov 13 2006, 09:54

A lot of reviews on http://www.ofp-arma.cznhl.com/, go check them out!

Posted by: NeMeSiS Nov 13 2006, 09:58

As apperntly noone checks the news releases submission thingy and everyone needs to see this vids because we finally get a good look at the awesome AI ill copy my post here tongue.gif

QUOTE
Showing the AI behaviour in cities (The enemy is put on 'hold fire, careless' so they dont fire back, easier filming):
http://www.filefactory.com/file/3ab128/


Showing the 'Bounding Overwatch' System (one AI covers the other while the other one moves forward, then they repeat it)
http://www.filefactory.com/file/e61456/

Both made by Shadak

(Note that the download link is hidden between all those google ads, scroll down a bit to see where you can download it... (http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?;act=ST;f=64;t=54551;st=120

Posted by: Serial Killer Nov 13 2006, 10:09

It looks very promising! smile.gif I hope building fight will be better too.

Posted by: Nuker Nov 13 2006, 10:09

That's pretty impressive AI behaviour. Can't wait to test it myself.

Posted by: King Homer Nov 13 2006, 12:00

I'm more and more the opinion they should have released Armed Assault all together, even with publisher problems. Now Czech game magazines are taking all the fun. Just read another translated review, which tells me the story is fucked up and just linear, no tension and you do in every mission the same again...

Posted by: Serial Killer Nov 13 2006, 12:30

QUOTE(King Homer @ Nov 13 2006, 13:00) *

I'm more and more the opinion they should have released Armed Assault all together, even with publisher problems. Now Czech game magazines are taking all the fun. Just read another translated review, which tells me the story is fucked up and just linear, no tension and you do in every mission the same again...


There goes all the fun sad.gif Hopefully there will be many custom made missions and campaigns to keep Armed Assault alive. I didn't like it in Operation Flashpoint when there was more addons than missions.

Posted by: Elliot Carver Nov 13 2006, 15:18

The thing that is important to remember is that this game we are all reciving is just the begining. BIS will have to release all the modding equipment or ArmA will die as we would all go back to modding ofp taking ArmA codes and textures with us. We all know there are going to be problems. We all know there are going to be bits we hate. We've waited nearly 6, our expectations are very high. Remember what ofp looked like when it first hit our shelves. Look what happened to it when 1 million people got their hands on it.

The way im viewing ArmA is not for its game content or amounts of contect. I can change that myself or wait 3 weeks for the first campaigns to be released. No, im viewing ArmA for its graphic and game engine upgrade, to which i belive we have been given a gem. In 4 years time when we are all sitting here only months away from game 2 coming out ArmA will be completely unrecognisable as it is today.

I think BIS and Co deserve massive amounts of credit. We shouldnt judge the game on tiny little bits but the game as a whole and I think they have done a very good job from what i can see.

cheers
Carver

Posted by: Cappa Nov 13 2006, 17:30

I agree with Homer,everybody should have the chance to make his own opinion of ArmA.Of course I understand these magazines who write articles of ArmA...it's their job.But please stop translating it into german or english...I don't want to know anything until I found it out by myself mf_hide.gif
Btw,I hope they will release an AI-Patch soon!

Posted by: Red Square Monkey Nov 13 2006, 20:22

QUOTE(brataccas @ Nov 12 2006, 23:24) *

downloading those vids now... IPB Image

edit: OMFG!!!!!! the tractor vid! ! ! u hear that awesome explosion and then you hear the echo of the explosion in the distance! ! freakin awesome w00t.gif w00t.gif w00t.gif w00t.gif w00t.gif w00t.gif w00t.gif

What are you guys talking about? blink.gif There isn't an echo at all? ECP, now that has fucking awesome explosion sounds... this is nothing compared to ECP, really stupid.gif.

Posted by: Nik Nov 13 2006, 20:45

Good Videos laugh.gif, one question though, are the bullet wounds reletive or just death textures as with OFP?

Posted by: da rat Nov 13 2006, 20:56

Nah, I think it was just a texture, and he aimed where he knew it would appear. We've all done it in ofp tongue.gif

Posted by: King Homer Nov 13 2006, 22:55

QUOTE(Nik @ Nov 13 2006, 20:45) *

Good Videos laugh.gif, one question though, are the bullet wounds reletive or just death textures as with OFP?



I guess dynamic wound textures aren't used in many games. IIRC first Hitman part had this, you we're able to add thousands of bullet wounds to a body. Well but that's macabre, Armed Assault should use blood textures for realisms sake not for fun and bestialic gore action.

Posted by: da rat Nov 13 2006, 23:38

Lots of Videos for you to feast your eyes on boppin2.gif

http://www.armedassault.eu/files/Shootout.avi
http://www.armedassault.eu/files/arma_1.avi
http://www.armedassault.eu/files/arma_2.avi
http://www.armedassault.eu/files/arma_5.avi
http://www.armedassault.eu/files/arma_9.avi
http://www.armedassault.eu/files/arma_10.avi
http://www.armedassault.eu/files/Penetration.avi
http://www.armedassault.eu/files/Tank.avi

Credit goes to Armed Assault.eu and it's forum members drunk.gif

Posted by: Elliot Carver Nov 14 2006, 02:42

Dude, that is a first class post. One of the best ive ever seen you do tongue.gif

Seriously, wow stuff there.

In the second video "Attack the Convoy) you can see some wildlife: birds, dragonflies etc. Was quite funny watching the guy take off and nearly crash. By the looks of things they have made the flight controls a little more manouverable.
In the "City Fight (CQB)" it was good to see the AI actually being usefull for once and keeping up with the player.
In "Civilian Fighting/ exploration" you get to see a few things. You can see how the trees fall over like on ofp1. The MG does the annoying 'trying to shoot higher' thingy. The Blackhawk turning was sweet. Unfortunatly around the 2.40s mark the t80's barrel goes through the fuel barrels on the back of it. You get to see the m1a1 destroyed not bad, beats the wierd ofp1 destructions.
"Civilian Fighting 2" - 2:35s The hummers damage textures seem to 'turn on late' as the user looks at them. 5.00s: The barns textures look like a wall on zoomed on the LAW but when he zoomes out again it looks open.
In the civie moves even with all the armourd, troop and heli support the US stuff gets owned by a seemingly smaller russian presance.
Just watched video "Penetration". Bug or deliberate alowance of shooting through 'thin' metal?
"Abrams" The voices are a little desturbing. The flying debris does not stay on the ground when it lands.

A little while ago on the ofp.info forums we all had a good bitch about the 'poor' 3 tier building destruction animations. Well I dont wish to make you feel hard done by but check out this example: VBS2 clip "DynamicBuild_a.mpg" in the .rar 'movie pack 1': http://www.virtualbattlespace2.com/media/movies/movies_1x.rar (NOT AN ARMA VIDEO) That is what i was expecting in my arma! After years of posts saying 'destuctable buildings' to give us what they did and not that when thay had it? little silly to me and i can see there are going to be a few complaints too from others smile.gif

anyhow sweet movies thanks to the maker, lucky whatsit!
cheers
carver

Posted by: Serial Killer Nov 14 2006, 08:44

Very nice, da rat! smile.gif Nice take-off in the second video. tongue.gif The choppers seems to be much better to control, can't wait to try them out.

Posted by: LooseKannon Nov 14 2006, 10:27

Well, I can be sure there will be loads of missions made for ArmA.

I have an idea - perhaps we here at Arma.info should put together a storyline and joint-create a campaign made by our members?

That'd be cool smile.gif

Posted by: Corporal Major Nov 14 2006, 13:56

I've ordered the German version to be dispatched to me in the UK once it's released. Anyone planning on doing an English language patch? Otherwise I'll probably buy an English version when it comes out here next year.

Posted by: NeMeSiS Nov 14 2006, 16:02

http://www.filefactory.com/file/c343ec/ made by Shadak laugh.gif

And http://www.utw-squad.net/main.php, i havent finished downloading them so im not sure whats in it smile.gif

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 14 2006, 16:47

great vids da rat! coastal flight makes terrain look sweat

Posted by: NeMeSiS Nov 14 2006, 17:01

QUOTE(Elliot Carver @ Nov 14 2006, 02:42) *
VBS2 clip "DynamicBuild_a.mpg" in the .rar 'movie pack 1': http://www.virtualbattlespace2.com/media/movies/movies_1x.rar (NOT AN ARMA VIDEO) That is what i was expecting in my arma! After years of posts saying 'destuctable buildings' to give us what they did and not that when thay had it? little silly to me and i can see there are going to be a few complaints too from others smile.gif


1. Thats VBS1
2. It was never implented in VBS1 because it was highly impractical to use
3. I could make that in OFP aswell (theoretically), but its not possible to use this on alot of buildings while maintaining a good FPS..

I do plan on making the ArmA destruction a bit more 'dynamic' then it is now, by breaking up the building in multiple parts and placing those parts where the buildings should be with some WRP editor. ArmA can handle large groups of objects better then OFP so it should work, but im not sure what to do with the 'interior' of the buildings..


EDIT: Shouldnt 'someone' post these videos on the mainpage? I find ofp.info/armedassault.info a bit missing out when it comes to ArmA stuff

Posted by: Red Square Monkey Nov 14 2006, 21:53

Thank god we have Sanctuary. The animations still suck boppin2.gif. EDIT: JUST KIDDIN' LOL?
ArmA looks great on pics (see CP thread) but if you see the whole thing (so animations, sounds... the whole game experience) there's still a lot the community can fix. I guess that's what most people wanted all the time already blues.gif

Posted by: da rat Nov 14 2006, 21:59

QUOTE(Red Square Monkey @ Nov 14 2006, 20:53) *

Thank god we have Sanctuary. The animations still suck boppin2.gif.



You really think so? I think they're great, look really realistic imo blues.gif

Posted by: Red Square Monkey Nov 14 2006, 22:12

Well, especially the transissions between them is not that great. And the civilian is jogging instead of running if you ask me.

Posted by: The Lord Nov 14 2006, 22:58

That wasnt a run last time! more a dememted waddling!

The anims dont look all that special. I am preapring to be Halo 2'd but hoping I am proved wrong smile.gif

Posted by: da rat Nov 14 2006, 23:25

QUOTE(The Lord @ Nov 14 2006, 21:58) *

I am preapring to be Halo 2'd but hoping I am proved wrong smile.gif

I think it's gone through most of our minds cry3.gif
I haven't heard any of the Czech players say anything good about the game (or anything at all) apart from post screenshots, their specs and answer the odd question ohno-smiley.gif But let us not consider this eventuality blues.gif

Posted by: NeMeSiS Nov 14 2006, 23:35

QUOTE(da rat @ Nov 14 2006, 23:25) *

I think it's gone through most of our minds cry3.gif
I haven't heard any of the Czech players say anything good about the game (or anything at all) apart from post screenshots, their specs and answer the odd question ohno-smiley.gif But let us not consider this eventuality blues.gif


Then you should check the BI forums more often wink.gif
There are a few bugs (weird/disapearing textures, AI doesnt engage once in a while), but overal they seem to like it.. Hell, http://www.armedassault.com/, that just doesnt happen for no reason boppin2.gif

EDIT: RSM, you really are the first person i see who doesnt like the animations, they are so much better then OFP, and they really move much more lifelike, instead of that robot movement of OFP tongue.gif

Posted by: Sniperwolf572 Nov 15 2006, 00:26

QUOTE(NeMeSiS @ Nov 14 2006, 23:35) *

...Hell, http://www.armedassault.com/, that just doesnt happen for no reason...


http://butcher.palacsinta.com/ofp/armaz.JPG. wink.gif

Posted by: da rat Nov 15 2006, 00:48

Oh my god... Are they your hands? What did it feel like? Copy of rolleyes.gif

Posted by: King Homer Nov 15 2006, 06:42

Did you buy them at once? laugh.gif

Posted by: Sniperwolf572 Nov 15 2006, 15:21

Sadly, those are not mine. __glurps.gif
Some Hungarian guy posted that pic on BIS forums.

Posted by: Nuker Nov 15 2006, 15:50

QUOTE(Sniperwolf572 @ Nov 15 2006, 00:26) *

http://butcher.palacsinta.com/ofp/armaz.JPG. wink.gif

Eh, can you send one to my place? please? w00t.gif Why did you had to show us that picture? You really want to make us feel bad eh ? tongue.gif

Posted by: NeMeSiS Nov 15 2006, 17:48

QUOTE(da rat @ Nov 15 2006, 00:48) *

Oh my god... Are they your hands? What did it feel like? Copy of rolleyes.gif


Yes, Sniperwolf572 does infact have 3 hands! Malajn.gif wink.gif

Well, only a few more weeks until i finally have it in my hands (going to köln @ six december, hope i can get it there somewhere) graduated.gif

Posted by: Nuker Nov 15 2006, 17:56

Ye, I will also pay germany a visit. Prolly going to visit 'Oldenburg' or 'Leer'.

Posted by: da rat Nov 15 2006, 18:05

Has it been confirmed whether the German version will use Starforce or not?

QUOTE
Yes, Sniperwolf572 does infact have 3 hands!

Har har har laugh.gif

Posted by: NeMeSiS Nov 15 2006, 18:09

QUOTE(da rat @ Nov 15 2006, 18:05) *

Has it been confirmed whether the German version will use Starforce or not?


It wont, the 505 version is still unknown though

Posted by: Nuker Nov 15 2006, 18:14

Luckily it won't, only 15 days to go! tongue.gif

Posted by: da rat Nov 15 2006, 18:14

Well then, I either wait for the 505 version and find out it does indeed have starforce, then end up with the German version, or buy the German version now and get some translator Malajn.gif Hmmmm...

Posted by: King Homer Nov 15 2006, 18:20

I guess if the Germans don't have Starforce all the others released afterwards won't have either.

Posted by: da rat Nov 15 2006, 18:34

That's such nice-sounding news.. I dearly hope it's true Copy of rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Nuker Nov 15 2006, 19:01

Well, I think I'll buy the german version anyway. Dutch is pretty much looking the same as German tongue.gif

Posted by: NeMeSiS Nov 15 2006, 19:26

QUOTE(King Homer @ Nov 15 2006, 18:20) *

I guess if the Germans don't have Starforce all the others released afterwards won't have either.


The german publisher isnt the same one who publishes for the rest of europe, so its not sure, and since 505 games never released a PC game before we cant even guess what kind of copy protection they will use...

Posted by: Elliot Carver Nov 16 2006, 04:03

lo dudes,

Has anybody asked them? I might try getting an email addy and see if I can get an answer from them. lol ill bill myself as an "official ArmA forum member" laugh.gif lol na just see if i cant get a responce smile.gif

edit: on the other hand may be not...i dont want to get myself sued

Posted by: Nuker Nov 16 2006, 07:31

I bet they get tons of emails of people asking about the SF and copy protections. I doubt you will get a reply, but you can always give it a shot.

Posted by: Elliot Carver Nov 16 2006, 07:42

2 youtube vids showing the noob texture changes on destroyed stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhTYN31qy_M&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNBP4MkYMXY&mode=related&search=

please tell me this is official:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isst1hLzL00 laugh.gif

cheers
carver

Posted by: King Homer Nov 16 2006, 07:53

QUOTE(Elliot Carver @ Nov 16 2006, 07:42) *


please tell me this is official:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isst1hLzL00 laugh.gif

cheers
carver


You didn't know? You have to buy every vehicle and weapon in ArmA. Easiest way is if you get a MasterCard or Visa. Or where should you get 4.3 Million Dollar for a Abrams?

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 16 2006, 09:52

the sound of bullits ripping into that hummer are awsome

i love the sounds in this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1e5fXsEQ08&mode=related&search=

Posted by: King Homer Nov 16 2006, 12:39

I love them all. Can't wait anymore..... aaaah

Posted by: Nuker Nov 16 2006, 15:54

So will it be able to turn off J.I.P. (Join in Progress) ?

Posted by: da rat Nov 16 2006, 17:17

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah_fNeLelyc
It's so nice to see that AI can move in buildings now!

BTW: Loads of Custom made ArmA videos by this guy
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=Chipper99
smile.gif

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 16 2006, 20:34

QUOTE(da rat @ Nov 16 2006, 16:17) *

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah_fNeLelyc
It's so nice to see that AI can move in buildings now!

BTW: Loads of Custom made ArmA videos by this guy
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=Chipper99
smile.gif



coolio, dont like stairs by looks of it, but still, its better than them hanging out out doors, also there no clipping with the walls.

Posted by: Red Square Monkey Nov 16 2006, 20:44

QUOTE(NeMeSiS @ Nov 14 2006, 23:35) *

Then you should check the BI forums more often wink.gif
There are a few bugs (weird/disapearing textures, AI doesnt engage once in a while), but overal they seem to like it.. Hell, http://www.armedassault.com/, that just doesnt happen for no reason boppin2.gif

EDIT: RSM, you really are the first person i see who doesnt like the animations, they are so much better then OFP, and they really move much more lifelike, instead of that robot movement of OFP tongue.gif

Hmm well i've just saw another video, they don't really suck that bad.. didn't really know what I was saying sweatingbullets.gif tongue.gif

Let's try again..


Some civilian animations look strange (the strafing to the right in http://battlenest.de/~ernie/armabananemitboot.wmv video, for example) wink.gif

Posted by: King Homer Nov 16 2006, 22:01

I have no problem with some small bugs or gliches, nobody's perfect! OFP 1.0 was buggy as hell aswell, but with the patches it got better and better!

Posted by: Red Square Monkey Nov 16 2006, 22:07

Oh yes thank god to patches..


Will there be some kind of expansion pack for ArmA (like Resistance for OFP) by the way? Or is it way too early to say?

Posted by: King Homer Nov 16 2006, 22:20

Yes too early! ArmA isn't even released and you're talking about an expansion!

Posted by: Red Square Monkey Nov 16 2006, 22:31

Lol, I dunno, maybe BIS said something about it tongue.gif

Posted by: da rat Nov 16 2006, 22:58

I wonder if the days of Official expansions in the OFP/ ArmA world are gone. We just have plenty of mods now. I think the only thing BIS would need to release are patches nowadays. tongue.gif

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 16 2006, 23:26

QUOTE(Red Square Monkey @ Nov 16 2006, 21:07) *

Oh yes thank god to patches..
Will there be some kind of expansion pack for ArmA (like Resistance for OFP) by the way? Or is it way too early to say?


i think will porter is the perfect oppertunity to create an expansion campaign. i heard the campaign in ArmA isnt charicter driven - at all, so that would be great to get that in a possible expansion.

but right now im more interested in the game itself.

Posted by: King Homer Nov 17 2006, 06:48

Oh I want that expansion now, who cares about Armed Assault. Damn, I guess the waiting makes some of you go crazy.

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 17 2006, 09:46

QUOTE(BigglesTrevor @ Nov 16 2006, 22:26) *

but right now im more interested in the game itself.


to quote myself wink.gif

Posted by: Serial Killer Nov 17 2006, 12:03

Are you able to climb up high mountains anymore in Armed Assault? I hope they fixed it...

Posted by: Deadeye Nov 17 2006, 13:28

JUst preordered two copys smile.gif

I'm really feeling sry for those who aren't able to play ArmA till Feburary

Posted by: Helping Hand Nov 17 2006, 14:17

It sucks... but at least it will give me time to upgrade my system to actually be able to use ArmA...

Posted by: King Homer Nov 17 2006, 14:31

QUOTE(Deadeye @ Nov 17 2006, 13:28) *

JUst preordered two copys smile.gif

I'm really feeling sry for those who aren't able to play ArmA till Feburary


Let's start a mailing service for all those poor souls out there getting ArmA in February!
Well but nothing is for free, you have to pay shipping costs + 16% VAT (in 2007: 19%).

Posted by: Helping Hand Nov 17 2006, 14:35

17.5% in the UK... how come 19% for 2007?

Posted by: King Homer Nov 17 2006, 14:40

Because they raised it smile.gif

Posted by: Helping Hand Nov 17 2006, 15:09

Ok fair enough laugh.gif

Posted by: da rat Nov 17 2006, 17:05

As much as I would love to have ArmA on the German release, I'd kinda prefer to have a version with less bugs and issues tiredsmiley.gif Unless I'm colossally misinformed, and the German version will be identical to the 505 version - If so, I might seriously take you up on that mailing thing, or just order it on a German website Copy of rolleyes.gif

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 17 2006, 17:37

i would be interested in getting it sent over if anyone is willing to help me out. if you had paypal i could send money vire that. (should save excahange costs yes?)

Posted by: d@nte Nov 17 2006, 18:02

QUOTE(Deadeye @ Nov 17 2006, 13:28) *

JUst preordered two copys smile.gif

I'm really feeling sry for those who aren't able to play ArmA till Feburary


for me it's not a problem, my birthday is in february, so i will get Arma for free naughty.gif and during this time, i still learn the new features for the texturing. sweatingbullets.gif

Posted by: da rat Nov 17 2006, 20:49

I wonder if men on the weapons of M113's, Strykers etc will get the opportunity to "duck" out of harm's way like on BF2? Would make so much more sense - They're just stuck out there, making the vehicle practically useless when they die tiredsmiley.gif

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 17 2006, 21:04

turn in turn out? smile.gif m113's i think are fixed, but can turn in on stryker

Posted by: Nik Nov 18 2006, 05:05

I think people need to learn some patiance, I can wait until Feburary as I dont want it to all get to familiar too soon, As with OFP where I can recognise any section of any of the officical islands from a screenshot and name alot of the towns D:

Posted by: Viper Nov 18 2006, 10:01

Well, I definately can't wait.
I want the bloody game, now !

I'm also very anxious to play the demos.
Hope they are released before the German version is out.

Posted by: Wittmann Nov 18 2006, 11:20

BIS has indicated demo will most likely be released with or after the German release.

All good things that don't have starforce come to those who wait smile.gif

Posted by: Viper Nov 18 2006, 12:59

True, very true.
If the demo is released with the German release I can enjoy the demo until my game is shipped to me, which should only take a few days.
Yes, I'm that impatient.

Posted by: King Homer Nov 18 2006, 15:31

At least rest of Europe and maybe US and Aussies get something to play with while Germany enjoys ArmA smile.gif

Posted by: Red Square Monkey Nov 18 2006, 15:31

I guess the demo will keep me going till February smile.gif. Thank god we have LustyPooh that will allow people to make missions 'n stuff.

Posted by: King Homer Nov 20 2006, 06:54

Okay guys, 9 days to go. Time's running out, have to buy enough fastfood and coke to stay in my room for the next 4 weeks wink.gif

Posted by: Wittmann Nov 20 2006, 07:41

Dont forget the beer!


Posted by: Nuker Nov 20 2006, 08:13

QUOTE(King Homer @ Nov 20 2006, 06:54) *

Okay guys, 9 days to go. Time's running out, have to buy enough fastfood and coke to stay in my room for the next 4 weeks wink.gif


Let's hope there will be enough copies available when it gets released in germany. Because i will consider paying germany a visit wink.gif

Posted by: Teliko Nov 20 2006, 12:58

Why are 505 taking so long to release? does it really take that long for bis to translate the campaign into english? blink.gif

Posted by: Nuker Nov 20 2006, 13:32

QUOTE(Teliko @ Nov 20 2006, 12:58) *

Why are 505 taking so long to release? does it really take that long for bis to translate the campaign into english? blink.gif

Most likely because its their first game and they will be the mayor suplier of ArmA. So that means they would need to ship it all over the world. And since its their first game, I think it will require some trail and error.

Posted by: King Homer Nov 20 2006, 14:30

QUOTE(Nuker @ Nov 20 2006, 08:13) *

Let's hope there will be enough copies available when it gets released in germany. Because i will consider paying germany a visit wink.gif


I have no problem with that. Preordered the SE edition.

Posted by: Nuker Nov 20 2006, 17:55

QUOTE(King Homer @ Nov 20 2006, 14:30) *

I have no problem with that. Preordered the SE edition.


Will the SE edition be released on the same date as the normal retail edition?

Posted by: King Homer Nov 20 2006, 18:00

One day earlier.

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 20 2006, 21:35

QUOTE(King Homer @ Nov 20 2006, 17:00) *

One day earlier.


thats some clever marketing, make more money out of the people desperate to get the game.

Posted by: da rat Nov 20 2006, 21:59

I'd have thought that they would of made more money out of releasing the SE about 1 week earlier rather than just a day. I would presonally be able to endure one day of waiting - not quite sure about one whole week though! laugh.gif
Although I will be getting the SE anyway so... Copy of rolleyes.gif

Posted by: King Homer Nov 20 2006, 22:14

I may get my package first on 30.11, depends on the shipping speed. Either 29.11 or 30.11. German Post normally needs 2 days to deliver a package.
So Morphicon didn't meant to privilege SE owners, it's not the intention of a clever marketing strategy, it's because of the shipping.

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 21 2006, 00:05

QUOTE(King Homer @ Nov 20 2006, 21:14) *

I may get my package first on 30.11, depends on the shipping speed. Either 29.11 or 30.11. German Post normally needs 2 days to deliver a package.
So Morphicon didn't meant to privilege SE owners, it's not the intention of a clever marketing strategy, it's because of the shipping.


ahh my mistake.

Posted by: Elliot Carver Nov 21 2006, 05:37

8 days now KH, this is going to be the slowest week of your life laugh.gif
2 questions:

1: Will the uk'ers (myself included) be able to by the SE edition from a website ie: 505 if they get their ass in gear. Its just that most uk websites and shops dont bother with 'unheard' of games such as this.

2. We know that ofp addons will be able to be crafted into ArmA but will ArmA units be able to be crafted into the old ofp1?

cheers folks
carver

Posted by: King Homer Nov 21 2006, 06:49

1. I don't know if the SE will be a limited edition in UK but in Germany there were only 1.000 available. Maybe there will a special pre-order page for the SE, same as for Germans....

2. No, ArmA addons are not compatible with OFP.

Posted by: da rat Nov 21 2006, 18:02

@ Elliot: It'll be in Gamestation wink.gif They're pretty good for new games - and very cheap too smile.gif

Posted by: Elliot Carver Nov 21 2006, 18:38

Very true. My local Gamestation dude asked me if I wanted him to ship a few copies of the CZ arma...I declined. Not at that price lol and id rather have the english version smile.gif

http://www.505gamestreet.com/ They launched their website today and we are not on it!! Great way to shun an entire community lol

Posted by: King Homer Nov 21 2006, 19:11

So ArmA will be there first PC title? I guess that's why it'll take so long wink.gif

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 21 2006, 20:13

QUOTE(Elliot Carver @ Nov 21 2006, 17:38) *

Very true. My local Gamestation dude asked me if I wanted him to ship a few copies of the CZ arma...I declined. Not at that price lol and id rather have the english version smile.gif

http://www.505gamestreet.com/ They launched their website today and we are not on it!! Great way to shun an entire community lol


i think this is going to be a good little money spinner for 505, the big boys are going to be kicking themselves IMO. somthing tells me well be seeing more of 505 in the future.

Posted by: da rat Nov 21 2006, 20:15

Personally, I cant see why other publishers didn;t jump at the chance to publish it.. OFP was successful beyond measure, and continues to be. The prestige of developing such a game stays with a company for a long time - not in Codemasters' case though tongue.gif

Posted by: Elliot Carver Nov 21 2006, 21:50

Im glad that we have got rid of codemasters. They always have been a one hit wonder developer. They always seem to make a great game and then when the second one comes along screw the developer and make as much money as possible from the ensueing legal actions.
Trevs right. 505 are gunna make a mint with this game. Like ofp1 ArmA will still be selling in 5, 6 years time.
The big publishers dont want anything to do with games like this cos its not 'popular'. A shoe company wouldnt want to make really comfortable 'Sportif' trainers but they'd jump to make 'nike' stuff.

Posted by: King Homer Nov 23 2006, 00:09

Same with EA and BF-series. Profit, profit and profit. The gamer hasn't got any time to enjoy the game to the fullest, no he'll get every 6 month a new full price title to buy ...

Glad we had enough time to enjoy OFP, 5 long years with ups and downs and now ArmA for another bunch of years wink.gif

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 23 2006, 00:12

and then game 2. the futures bright for us dedicated. i expect arma will attract alot of new people who will move on in time.

Posted by: King Homer Nov 23 2006, 08:14

We'll kick BF's ass wink.gif

Posted by: Russki Nov 23 2006, 17:31

And thats the truth, battlefield is _weapons_owned.gif by ArmA!! (I truly hate battlefield __yuk.gif )

And so it was written in the history books. boppin2.gif

Posted by: da rat Nov 23 2006, 20:48

Someone on the BI forums said ArmA doesn't support multiple cores.. What exactly does this mean? (I'm sure it doesnt mean dual core users can't play - but I'm checking anyway! laugh.gif )

Posted by: King Homer Nov 23 2006, 23:06

You can't use the whole potential of a dual core cpu, so if you own a Core 2 Duo it'll be used as normal single core Pentium.

Posted by: da rat Nov 23 2006, 23:11

So for instance, a

QUOTE
Core 2 Duo E6700 (2 X 2.66GHz)
would run at 2.66Ghz? Would that be any good? And, do you think that can be changed in a patch? ohno-smiley.gif

Posted by: King Homer Nov 24 2006, 07:05

QUOTE(da rat @ Nov 23 2006, 23:11) *

So for instance, a would run at 2.66Ghz? Would that be any good? And, do you think that can be changed in a patch? ohno-smiley.gif


Hell no. But it was known before ArmA won't support dual core cpu's.

Posted by: LooseKannon Nov 24 2006, 07:22

Oh no, are you serious!? Crap!

Well, what kind of processor would be the top one for ArmA?

Posted by: Fu$ion Nov 24 2006, 11:31

The second core can be used for Teamspeak / Ventrilo and any other background stuff, so it's still useful to have a dual core CPU.
Better than nothing smile.gif

Posted by: Wittmann Nov 24 2006, 13:04

Ive played many a game that does not support Dual Core, they still run quite fine and Ive noticed my load times can still often be better wink.gif

Posted by: da rat Nov 24 2006, 16:55

So how do you think a single 2.66Ghz core would fare...? mf_hide.gif

Posted by: NeMeSiS Nov 24 2006, 17:22

That depends, if its an E6600 (or something of that series), or an AMD 64/X2 then your fine, if its a P4 or some budget series then it will probably work but run like crap tongue.gif

EDIT: Oh, there are no single core Exxxxs or X2s, oh well, you get my point tongue.gif

Posted by: da rat Nov 24 2006, 17:56

QUOTE(NeMeSiS @ Nov 24 2006, 16:22) *

That depends, if its an E6600 (or something of that series), or an AMD 64/X2 then your fine, if its a P4 or some budget series then it will probably work but run like crap tongue.gif

Ok, that's awesome *reassured* (Mine will be an E6700 laugh.gif )

Posted by: King Homer Nov 24 2006, 19:10

Well, we should get back to topic.

Posted by: AriesUK Nov 24 2006, 19:36

i've just played it on a 1.8 duo with 1gb ram and a gf7600gt. Works fine at 1024 at mid to high levels. This game is such a major step from ofp its unbelievable. Gfx are gorgeous at high levels. Much better than I had expected.

Posted by: da rat Nov 24 2006, 21:13

Awesome new TrackIR video from Dslyecxi on the BI Forums!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4928428714571383685&hl=en

His Specs:

QUOTE
Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz
2GB PC2-6400 RAM
Raptor 150GB HD (important because of the FRAPS thing)
Radeon X1950 XTX 512MB



Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 25 2006, 02:25

QUOTE(da rat @ Nov 24 2006, 20:13) *

Awesome new TrackIR video from Dslyecxi on the BI Forums!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4928428714571383685&hl=en

His Specs:


adds trackir to christmas list blues.gif

that made arma look so sweet. i think trackir is definatly worth investing to get arma full potential.

Posted by: Helping Hand Nov 25 2006, 22:38

yea looks to be a good idea good for using in planes etc when you dont wanna move the plane

Posted by: King Homer Nov 26 2006, 10:45

Gaming is easier with that, but I thank TrackIR is too expensive for me, already thought about buying it but then I need some other, more important things.

Posted by: da rat Nov 26 2006, 13:39

Guess who's using heir head as a mouse? ^^
http://www.efmer.eu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1
Try that! It's freeware, and it works in IL2 a treat. It's a bit like TrackIR without the hat, but it's a bit wierd - takes a while to get used to (and it's hard to get it centred on the screen)
I'm currently trying to get it working in OFP, but it just minimises ofp all the time because it's working in the system tray tiredsmiley.gif

Posted by: Crankep Nov 26 2006, 14:57

Problem is that it is using the mouse. So the only thing it's good for is flying... which isn't that bad. laugh.gif

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 26 2006, 15:01

bit OT but you can already use the mouse in OFP to look around by pressing *

Posted by: Crankep Nov 26 2006, 15:18

Yes, but with that app you don't have to use the mouse...

Posted by: da rat Nov 26 2006, 16:25

I was thinking more about using it to simulate the HUD while in the gunner's seat of a chopper Copy of rolleyes.gif
(if I can get it to stop minimising it tiredsmiley.gif )
Some guy on the BIS forums said he couldn't get it working for ArmA, but he thinks it's his system so... smile.gif

Posted by: Crankep Nov 26 2006, 17:00

I have tried it in ArmA and it works.

Posted by: da rat Nov 26 2006, 17:55

http://www.armed-assault-zone.com/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=22&thread_id=1420&pid=11750#post_11750
Source: BI Forums/ Armed-Assaul-Zone.com
Nice to know, seeing as my new sysem will be on par with/ better than his Copy of rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Serial Killer Nov 26 2006, 19:25

For those who didn't know, there are wolfs, rabbits, hawks and other animals in Armed Assault. drunk.gif I found them from one of the pbo's, but according to the errors in game when I tried to create them with createvehicle command, they are unfinished. Hopefully they'll be in the global release... You can also shoot the seagulls and other birds, so maybe you can finally kill those annoyning spectators in MP... naughty.gif Just informing.

Posted by: Rewan Nov 26 2006, 21:08

Someone give me some Armed Assault tunes....

Link from RapidShare:
Link temporary removed

Good quality, they are from ArmA not from video w00t.gif

Posted by: Darkwolf Nov 26 2006, 21:11

I love sniping seagulls and butterflys with a G36 ! tongue.gif

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 26 2006, 21:30

QUOTE(Darkwolf @ Nov 26 2006, 20:11) *

I love sniping seagulls and butterflys with a G36 ! tongue.gif


you can shoot butterflys!!?? laugh.gif

Posted by: da rat Nov 26 2006, 21:42

QUOTE(Rewan @ Nov 26 2006, 20:08) *

Someone give me some Armed Assault tunes....

Link from RapidShare:

Link temporary removed

Good quality, they are from ArmA not from video w00t.gif

Is that even legal? laugh.gif

Posted by: Blackscorpion Nov 26 2006, 21:44

Thanks Rewan... aaah downloaded it in less than a minute. boppin2.gif

Posted by: King Homer Nov 26 2006, 23:00

QUOTE(da rat @ Nov 26 2006, 21:42) *

Is that even legal? laugh.gif



Yet unknown but I think distributing Armed Assault content via Internet can't be legal.
Especially because ArmA isn't released everywhere.


Posted by: Crankep Nov 27 2006, 13:50

I just drove from Estrella to the military base at Cabo Santa Lucia. I must say Sahrani is very beautiful and as nice the southern "paradise" style of enviroment is I must say the northern part is alot more interesting and nice. Love the eastern europe (OFP) setting. Old factories, propaganda signs etc. smile.gif

Posted by: King Homer Nov 27 2006, 14:33

2 days to go guys, then I can join your paradise island talk smile.gif

Posted by: Sniperwolf572 Nov 27 2006, 14:37

QUOTE(Serial Killer @ Nov 26 2006, 19:25) *

For those who didn't know, there are wolfs, rabbits, hawks and other animals in Armed Assault. drunk.gif I found them from one of the pbo's, but according to the errors in game when I tried to create them with createvehicle command, they are unfinished. Hopefully they'll be in the global release... You can also shoot the seagulls and other birds, so maybe you can finally kill those annoyning spectators in MP... naughty.gif Just informing.


Hawks are in the game, I shot a few. I mostly found them near Corazol. There is one on one of my signatures on BIS forums.

Posted by: Serial Killer Nov 27 2006, 18:54

QUOTE(Sniperwolf572 @ Nov 27 2006, 15:37) *

Hawks are in the game, I shot a few. I mostly found them near Corazol. There is one on one of my signatures on BIS forums.


Yes, I saw one too, and shot it...

http://img315.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hawkim9.jpg

Another good addition in ArmA, when you have radio disabled (EnableRadio False command), your group members will shout the orders / responses. You can also hear the other group leaders giving orders to their group members. And they actually move their lips! yammer.gif

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 27 2006, 19:29

haha there going to be alot more of them dropping out the sky in 2 days.


Posted by: NeMeSiS Nov 27 2006, 19:31

QUOTE(Serial Killer @ Nov 27 2006, 18:54) *

Another good addition in ArmA, when you have radio disabled (EnableRadio False command), your group members will shout the orders / responses. You can also hear the other group leaders giving orders to their group members. And they actually move their lips! yammer.gif


They also do that without the enableradio false command, but the further you are away from them, the more it will sound like a radio message wink.gif

Posted by: The Lord Nov 27 2006, 20:59

Hmm!
Will perhaps order a copy of Armed Assault from one of these countries!
Would you recommend I order from CZ or Germany if I am english speaker?

Posted by: Red Square Monkey Nov 27 2006, 21:05

QUOTE(Serial Killer @ Nov 27 2006, 18:54) *

Yes, I saw one too, and shot it...

http://img315.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hawkim9.jpg

Jesus! That looks like a fish laugh.gif

QUOTE(Crankep)
Love the eastern europe (OFP) setting. Old factories, propaganda signs etc.

Old factories, propaganda signs: okay. But East-European houses just don't make any sense. When you look at the map of Sahrani, you see a lot of Spanish looks names (even in the North), so Sahrani must have been a Spanish colony. So why are there East-European buildings and houses there then?
(personally, I just think BIS likes their islands to represent the Czech Republic a little, like they did in Resistance (-> which was fine, but it's just not suitable for an island like Sahrani))

Posted by: da rat Nov 27 2006, 21:13

QUOTE(The Lord @ Nov 27 2006, 19:59) *

Would you recommend I order from CZ or Germany if I am english speaker?


Lol, that kinda depends on which of the two languages you speak! *Getting something...* Ok, I think you speak German better. There ya go laugh.gif
Seriously though, German is MUCH easier to understand than Czech IMO.

Doesn't really matter much anyway, no competition:
1. German copy isn't starforced
2. German copy can be patched to English (sickboy on the BI forums is working on a German patch when German copy is released)
3. German copy is likley to be less buggy (if BIS is actually patching as we speak and hoping to release alongside the German release)
smile.gif

Posted by: NeMeSiS Nov 27 2006, 21:54

Point 2 is useless though, you can also convert the Czech version to english (check the mainpage wink.gif )

Posted by: da rat Nov 27 2006, 22:14

QUOTE(NeMeSiS @ Nov 27 2006, 20:54) *

Point 2 is useless though, you can also convert the Czech version to english (check the mainpage wink.gif )

I know that (I haven't been living in a box!)
I was just telling him in case he didn't know tongue.gif

Posted by: Crankep Nov 27 2006, 22:58

QUOTE(Red Square Monkey @ Nov 27 2006, 21:05) *

Jesus! That looks like a fish laugh.gif
Old factories, propaganda signs: okay. But East-European houses just don't make any sense. When you look at the map of Sahrani, you see a lot of Spanish looks names (even in the North), so Sahrani must have been a Spanish colony. So why are there East-European buildings and houses there then?
(personally, I just think BIS likes their islands to represent the Czech Republic a little, like they did in Resistance (-> which was fine, but it's just not suitable for an island like Sahrani))



Well since OFP was "cold war east european" inspired and many of the buildnings in the north are from OFP, well that's where you get where I got that from.

Posted by: King Homer Nov 28 2006, 06:51

Today is shipping day for Germany. All preordered SE packages will be send to their customers! And tomorrow is the day of days!

Posted by: Crankep Nov 28 2006, 17:11

I ordered the German version from amazon.de using that guide that are on some forums Right now it says:

QUOTE

Lieferung Nr. 1: wird bald versandt Wir bereiten diese(n) Artikel gerade für den Versand vor, daher sind Änderungen oder Stornierungen nicht mehr möglich. Möchten Sie Informationen darüber, wie Sie Artikel an uns zurücksenden?

Lieferung voraussichtlich: 4. Dez. 2006 - 11. Dez. 2006 (Nähere Informationen)
1 Lieferung durch Deutsche Post Paeckchen


No idea what it says though. tongue.gif

Posted by: fabrik Nov 28 2006, 18:13

Well finally I saw with my eyes ARMA, I watched some gameplay and editor/video-setup stuff, not played but listened well to those who played
in my opinion many voices are,about now, true!!
it mantains the oddities of ofp, and I hope that could be improved but not sure about it.

some errors are simply absurd..

- it rains inside buildings (damaged roofs???) blues.gif

- some 3d models can pass through each other, some Shops entrance are simply "glued" on other buildings and look really FAKE,

-destroyed buildings DISAPPEAR (no ruins execpt dust and 2 bricks)

-level of detail is a bit less flexible than OFP one

- vehicles do weird things such as that bridge truck bumbing of the video or doing highest jump championships, humvee that climb down vertical hills like spiderman or cornering at 80mph like automan's lamborghini countach.helo that lands on their rotors (upside down) planes that hit ground and bounce back in the sky in flames(I saw no 3d damage on vehicles but only taking fire and burn)

and fps is absolutely LOW even on good PC

I saw it on a
A64 3.5GHz Venice
DFI LanParty Ultra-D Nforce4
2Gb Ram ddr400
Ati x800pro 256Mb overclocked


the only way to have more than 10 fps with some units on the map is to put all to LOW
but at this detail it all looks blurry like watered paintings
anyway even with the latest OFP mods with high-res textures some pc slow down.

the sounds is COPY/PASTE from OFP and the radio messages are about DOUBLE SPEED so it seem every officer has hurry to give roder: "go here! go there! oh now is down! oh no I'm dead!" everything speeched in 4 seconds!

AI is son of OFP AI.. so u pay the freedom of movement and big map with a AI that is a bit dumb.. some litterally suicides, some chase u as berserkers.. I miss the real battle feeling!

SO what is good?

potentially ARMA could be great, it has better 3d models than ofp, soldiers are more realistic, weapons are really nice, grass and shadows and better man and objects proportions make it look sometimes REAL..

BUT...
but it mantains ALL the faults of OFP and add something more..
LOW FPS above all.

I dunno if the community can really fix something or a patch can do it, only time can say it.

I SAY AGAIN, THIS IS ONLY an OPINION OF MINE,
I saw it running on a bunch of pc's who ran latest games at 40/50 fps
and arma freezed them down to 10/20fps.. i

f it was not for some estetic improovement like: GRASS&Vegetation, SHADOWS, WATER EFFECT, Hi-RES Textures

and for some little game improovement like: Swimming, 3d ironsights, a bit better editor.

well if it was not for those I would still look at OFP...
about now, i think that BIS could make a new milestone of pc-game, but may be near to fail its objective!. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

HOPE SOME ONE FIND I AM WRONG
__glurps.gif

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 28 2006, 18:24

i hate to say it but ive been hearing alot of negative responces to ArmA from OFP fans. i myslef am going to retain my own judgement until i have got the game. to me it still looks awsome, and cant imagine it not being awsome.

Posted by: King Homer Nov 28 2006, 18:45

Well, the problem in my eyes is: Many useres are just hardware beginners, they don't know how to optimize there system, optimize video options etc. ... that's why so many people moan about it.

I never had problems with any game, in the end I could play every game without FPS drop may it be with more or less detail.



QUOTE
I ordered the German version from amazon.de using that guide that are on some forums Right now it says:

QUOTE

Lieferung Nr. 1: wird bald versandt Wir bereiten diese(n) Artikel gerade für den Versand vor, daher sind Änderungen oder Stornierungen nicht mehr möglich. Möchten Sie Informationen darüber, wie Sie Artikel an uns zurücksenden?

Lieferung voraussichtlich: 4. Dez. 2006 - 11. Dez. 2006 (Nähere Informationen)
1 Lieferung durch Deutsche Post Paeckchen


No idea what it says though. tongue.gif


It says that you'll get ArmA between 4th and 11th of December!

Posted by: fabrik Nov 28 2006, 19:09

well I am not a hardware genius but
if I have to flat down detail ARMA to have 30 fps during medium battle
even on middle/high PC configs
if u flat donw ARMA details it will look worst than OFP except for the presence of grass and some better 3d models

well I am start to think that the engine is not enough tuned by BIS
I played Doom 3 lower detail.. I got almost epilectic with6 fps
while HL2 ran very smooth, so did FarCry,
BF2 sucx as gaem and as FPS (imho)

OFP never had optimized 3d engine and FPS related to details was not in my opinion so high, I hoped BIS could have done a miracle with ARMA but they did not, as I can see upgrading graphic has killed FPS
I dunno if is NECESSARY and HDR Video Card to get higher fps
sure is I dunno who will buy a new HighEnd PC to play ARMA at more than 30 FPS...

Posted by: Crankep Nov 28 2006, 19:30

King Homer: Thanks. laugh.gif


Posted by: da rat Nov 28 2006, 19:40

QUOTE(fabrik @ Nov 28 2006, 18:09) *

sure is I dunno who will buy a new HighEnd PC to play ARMA at more than 30 FPS...

Me tongue.gif

But you made valid points. Thing is, games will keep going forward graphically, there's nothing you can do about it tiredsmiley.gif

Posted by: Crankep Nov 28 2006, 20:45

QUOTE
Ihre Amazon.de Bestellung wurde versandt
w00t.gif w00t.gif

Btw don't buy any computer untill DX10 comes btw. smile.gif

Posted by: da rat Nov 28 2006, 20:46

QUOTE(Crankep @ Nov 28 2006, 19:45) *

Btw don't buy any computer untill DX10 comes btw. smile.gif

/ Buy a good computer now, then just wait for a DX10 card when they're affordable.

Posted by: NeMeSiS Nov 28 2006, 21:57

Just a note for all the german users: The german version has a bug made by the publisher which ruins the FPS, if you get 20FPS with everything on low you are lucky, they are currently working on a hotfix.

Posted by: Crankep Nov 28 2006, 22:34

Hah okey.. nice bug. smile.gif

Oh and well I'd wait because the other stuff is probaly going to be better by the time the DX10 cards are released. But if you are on a really shit computer buy one now.

Posted by: da rat Nov 28 2006, 23:12

My gawd, how the hell can that pass tests and be sold!? Makes no sense to me at all... Did they not bother testing the German version at all on normal computers??

Posted by: NeMeSiS Nov 28 2006, 23:28

QUOTE(da rat @ Nov 28 2006, 23:12) *

My gawd, how the hell can that pass tests and be sold!? Makes no sense to me at all... Did they not bother testing the German version at all on normal computers??


Its the protection morphicon added, it keeps checking for the DVD while you are playing, which takes up alot of CPU cycles... Malajn.gif

Posted by: da rat Nov 28 2006, 23:35

QUOTE(NeMeSiS @ Nov 28 2006, 22:28) *

Its the protection morphicon added, it keeps checking for the DVD while you are playing, which takes up alot of CPU cycles... Malajn.gif

Perhaps they didn't find this in Beta testing because their copies weren't using the protection system or something.. tiredsmiley.gif

About the CPU cycles, so the German version should be alright for people with dual core CPU's or...? blink.gif

Posted by: Sniperwolf572 Nov 28 2006, 23:46

QUOTE(da rat @ Nov 28 2006, 23:35) *

About the CPU cycles, so the German version should be alright for people with dual core CPU's or...? blink.gif


No. If you don't like playing it with reduced FPS, trash can is the only solution.

I think we should wait till King Homer gets his hand on the thing, he has a powerful enough PC to run it, if it's capped for him, it's capped for most of the people. I guess this is where cracks get to be useful.

Posted by: Crankep Nov 29 2006, 00:12

I don't think we have to worry too much. That big of a bug won't go unpatched for long. I'd say there will be a patch out withing a day or something. Let's hope for that at least.

Posted by: fabrik Nov 29 2006, 00:38

QUOTE(da rat @ Nov 28 2006, 23:12) *

My gawd, how the hell can that pass tests and be sold!? Makes no sense to me at all... Did they not bother testing the German version at all on normal computers??


I would be surprised for other bugs!!! devil.gif
After YEARS of waiting, each bug found in the game, each absurd behaviour, every polygon that is out of bound really has been for me a shot to the heart!!! __glurps.gif __glurps.gif __glurps.gif

the point it is not new pc worth 2000$ or DX10
the point for me is, what do I gain spending so much money and time?
is it justified a pc like NASA's ones for what arma gives graphically?
well I am not sure,
I repeat ARMA looks great, yes it looks great STILL, without moving ,as an amazing picture..
but this is not enough compare to all the loss it has in FPS
I can't understand what happened.. the gras has been implemented in many other recent games
and no one had those problems
My pc runs OBLIVION with no problems at hi-res with fulls vegetation moving...
why is ARMA suffering so much...
I hope with new users someone will find hot to fix this problem


Posted by: King Homer Nov 29 2006, 06:44

QUOTE(NeMeSiS @ Nov 28 2006, 21:57) *

Just a note for all the german users: The german version has a bug made by the publisher which ruins the FPS, if you get 20FPS with everything on low you are lucky, they are currently working on a hotfix.


As long as I didn't test it myself I don't believe anything. Some people are just to stupid to set details correctly and get low FPS then.

In armed-assault.de forums 50% say the game runs perfect, 50% say it's crap, so nothing to believe yet.
I'll return at 1800 today, so I may test it later this evening and get some detailed review for you.

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 29 2006, 12:39

QUOTE(King Homer @ Nov 29 2006, 05:44) *

As long as I didn't test it myself I don't believe anything. Some people are just to stupid to set details correctly and get low FPS then.

In armed-assault.de forums 50% say the game runs perfect, 50% say it's crap, so nothing to believe yet.
I'll return at 1800 today, so I may test it later this evening and get some detailed review for you.


well you cant blame people for not knowing how to set the game right to get the optimum performance. not everyone is great with computers. sure if you got an old comp and running in highest settings then you deserved to be shot, but i mean the more complicated smaller stuff. game companys should take this into account.

i know for a fact oblivion had a optimum performance guide in the read-me. perhaps Arma has somthing similar, just no-one has bovered to look at it .

Posted by: Crankep Nov 29 2006, 14:47

But you can be blamed for saying the game is crap and everything is crap when the problem is you.

Posted by: King Homer Nov 29 2006, 15:38

That's the fact.

I just for few minutes at home, checked my mail: and there it is: in an old rusty 7.62mm ammo box. I'll have to work another 2 or 3 hours, after that I'll install and report in!

Posted by: pieterlen Nov 29 2006, 16:31

Performance problems in german version


The performance problem on german version of armed assault is not a rumor and its not the problem of stupid users nor is it a problem of bis. The german distributor morphicon is writing about the bug on german armed assault homepage, if you can read german, you can see the report here: http://www.forum.german-gamers-club.eu/showthread.php?t=1404

I also wrote an email to morphicon, they said they are still working on the problem, so i hope a patch will be out soon...

Posted by: NeMeSiS Nov 29 2006, 17:30

They said they are already working on a hotfix, you wont have to wait for the official patch from BIS

EDIT: Oh, that was also in that link, well this is for those 2 not-german speaking users here wink.gif

Posted by: fabrik Nov 29 2006, 17:42

QUOTE(King Homer @ Nov 29 2006, 15:38) *

That's the fact.

I just for few minutes at home, checked my mail: and there it is: in an old rusty 7.62mm ammo box. I'll have to work another 2 or 3 hours, after that I'll install and report in!


Its not my case,and, sorry but I think u could be more correct, it seem u simply do not want to hear that ARMA has a lot of problems..
The Games HAS problems, some bugs like ofp, some SAME bug!!! sad.gif
And, in my opinion, (that should be good as any other opinion in democracy)
the game does not have enough graphical improovement to justify a so low FPS
it seem simply BIS did not found a good way to make everything working easily
an even most performing PC has a lot to do to keep it all going on.. so LOW FPS.
this was my first thought, my second one was hoping I was wrong. the 3rd was hoping someone fix it.
Anyway, I support freed speach! yammer.gif yammer.gif yammer.gif

Posted by: NeMeSiS Nov 29 2006, 17:44

Fabrik, are you blind or just lazy? The low FPS is NOT caused by the game, its because of the copy protection the german publisher added in some horrible way, they are currently working on a hotfix.

The game works fine on non-german versions and in a few days it will work fine on the german version aswell.


QUOTE
Anyway, I support freed speach!

Reading is also free, do it.

Posted by: fabrik Nov 29 2006, 17:56

QUOTE(NeMeSiS @ Nov 29 2006, 17:44) *

Fabrik, are you blind or just lazy? The low FPS is NOT caused by the game, its because of the copy protection the german publisher added in some horrible way, they are currently working on a hotfix.

The game works fine on non-german versions and in a few days it will work fine on the german version aswell.
Reading is also free, do it.


Be cool Man ,Be cool
I am talking about Czek version, usually I know what I am talking about so.. be cool.
drunk.gif

QUOTE(NeMeSiS @ Nov 29 2006, 17:44) *


The game works fine on non-german versions and in a few days it will work fine on the german version aswell.



Really?? I heard many voices saying something else..
have u tested it? I saw it,and today I also played it!
thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

QUOTE(NeMeSiS @ Nov 29 2006, 17:44) *


Reading is also free, do it.


Malajn.gif dry.gif

Posted by: NeMeSiS Nov 29 2006, 18:00

QUOTE(fabrik @ Nov 29 2006, 17:56) *

have u tested it?


Yes i tested the Czech version, it works fine on my PC (which is slower then yours) in 1024×768 on medium details. Once the hotfix is released for the german version it will work fine on your PC aswell.

Posted by: fabrik Nov 29 2006, 18:08

QUOTE(NeMeSiS @ Nov 29 2006, 18:00) *

Yes i tested the Czech version, it works fine on my PC (which is slower then yours) in 1024×768 on medium details. Once the hotfix is released for the german version it will work fine on your PC aswell.


Man I love, my version is Czech too so, can u please post you pc config and your
ArmA setup so maybe I can improove my performance?
I tryed every mix of settings, from LOW to VeryHigh, every option in the game and outside in hte ATI control panel..
and all alone in the map, in a city, I can't get more than 20FPS (all set low)

Posted by: NeMeSiS Nov 29 2006, 18:19

Amd x2 4200+ (@2,5ghz), 1,5gb ram (+-400mhz), x1600XT (@624/752).

viewdistance 2000, shaders/terrain/texture/object details all to normal, AF to high, AA to low, shadows on low/normal but when im in a forest i turn them off (otherwise it kills my FPS)
My FPS never gets below 20 and never above 30 so its quite stable, and 25FPS is more then enough for me.

Note that my PC is highly optimized, i have exactly 0 useless programs running in the background, i defragmented, no spyware, etc etc

Posted by: fabrik Nov 29 2006, 18:29

QUOTE(fabrik @ Nov 28 2006, 18:13) *


I saw it on a
A64 3500 Venice
DFI LanParty Ultra-D Nforce4
2Gb Ram ddr400
Ati x800pro 256Mb overclocked



Sadly for me my friend your pc is better than mine so that's why on mine ti has so much problems
25 fps would be good for me too if they where stable
anyway, be honest, on your pc u have surely seen games with better graphic going faster than Arma

PS. to test ArmA I did a complete format and Re-Install so the pc is perfectly optimized wink.gif

Posted by: NeMeSiS Nov 29 2006, 18:36

QUOTE(fabrik @ Nov 29 2006, 18:29) *

Sadly for me my friend your pc is better than mine so that's why on mine ti has so much problems
25 fps would be good for me too if they where stable
anyway, be honest, on your pc u have surely seen games with better graphic going faster than Arma

PS. to test ArmA I did a complete format and Re-Install so the pc is perfectly optimized wink.gif


Better graphics.. yes.. But did they have the ENORMOUS scale of ArmA? HAH! not even close laugh.gif

My PC isnt better, ok i have a dual core but ArmA doesnt really make use of it anyway, and my ram is slow as hell, and my graphicscard may support SM3.0, that isnt used in ArmA and an x800 is alot faster.

Your PC should perform way better then it currently does. I advice you to try the latest omega drivers (google them), that should help a bit.
Ah, and try using the
-maxmem=1024
parameter in your shortcut, but as you have 2GB ram you may try -maxmem=1536 or something

Posted by: King Homer Nov 29 2006, 18:48

Okay ladies, calm down a bit. I'm gonna test ArmA now and then I can tell you if it laggs or not. And FYI why are non-German people complaining about the German version? You're normally not supposed to play it and if you want to do so, don't complain about bugs.

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 29 2006, 19:01

cooool, im getting mine soon, some guy i dont really know offered to get it for me in germany, would rather use somone more trustworthy but im desperate. im not sure if i trust www.buyarma.com, is that place genuine?

Posted by: King Homer Nov 29 2006, 19:31

Okay as told before: Tested it, no lag for me on high detail with 4x AA and 8x AF. Graphics all nice, sounds and effects as well BUT the control are fucked up in my opinion. I mean it's even worse than BF series, playing 5 years with the same OFP control configuration it's really hard to get that working. 1000 keys for the same function, no middle mouse button menue all the time (it's available sometimes but not everytime, and that's the feature I loved so much in OFP).

I guess it'll take me some time to configure the controls.

Posted by: da rat Nov 29 2006, 19:35

Can your post your specs please KH? smile.gif

Posted by: BigglesTrevor Nov 29 2006, 19:43

and some photos so we can see how well it runs on you beast.

Posted by: King Homer Nov 29 2006, 19:48

My specs are still

X2 4000+
2 GB RAM
Geforce 7950GT

Oh and yes, I'm badly pissed of because of the controls. Missing already my fire-in-commander-view option. Command menue doesn't seem to be closeable in that mode (you know DEL on numblock). So you can't watch you're tank shooting from plenty different angles!

Posted by: The Lord Nov 29 2006, 19:54

Just ORDERED ARMED ASSAULT OFF EBAY!!!!!
AAAAAH!!! WOOOO!!!!!!!
Ah! Phew!
Cant wait to get it going!

Posted by: Sniperwolf572 Nov 29 2006, 20:31

QUOTE(King Homer @ Nov 29 2006, 19:48) *

My specs are still

X2 4000+
2 GB RAM
Geforce 7950GT

Oh and yes, I'm badly pissed of because of the controls. Missing already my fire-in-commander-view option. Command menue doesn't seem to be closeable in that mode (you know DEL on numblock). So you can't watch you're tank shooting from plenty different angles!


Try remapping it to some unbinded key. Worked for me.

Posted by: The Lord Nov 29 2006, 22:55

Aww crap! just had a thought!
Does the German version have edited content?! like green blood?! or anything difrent! I pray not! and i think not, as its a port of CZ version.
Please confirm? smile.gif

Posted by: da rat Nov 29 2006, 23:04

QUOTE(King Homer @ Nov 29 2006, 18:48) *

My specs are still

X2 4000+
2 GB RAM
Geforce 7950GT


Excellent!
Soon I shall be enjoying ArmA at full settings devil.gif

Posted by: King Homer Nov 29 2006, 23:09

QUOTE(The Lord @ Nov 29 2006, 22:55) *

Aww crap! just had a thought!
Does the German version have edited content?! like green blood?! or anything difrent! I pray not! and i think not, as its a port of CZ version.
Please confirm? smile.gif



Looks all the same. Red blood. Normal skin color. English voices.

Posted by: da rat Nov 29 2006, 23:11

Homer, you said you always get 30fps+, is that on medium settings or high..?

Posted by: King Homer Nov 29 2006, 23:20

I'm still playing on high settings.
Texture detail on highest.
Shadows, terrain detail normal.
Postprocessing minimum (I don't like the blurring).
Every other setting on high.

Posted by: da rat Nov 29 2006, 23:32

Lush!! Thanks Homer smile.gif
I think I'll definatley look into ordering the German version when that hotfix comes out - but TBH I don't even think I'll need it Copy of rolleyes.gif

Posted by: LooseKannon Nov 30 2006, 10:02

KH - Does my new rig compare to yours? See Tech thread wink.gif

Will mine be as powerful as yours?

Posted by: Deadeye Nov 30 2006, 11:12

QUOTE(LooseKannon @ Nov 30 2006, 10:02) *

KH - Does my new rig compare to yours? See Tech thread wink.gif

Will mine be as powerful as yours?

YOur system will be twice as fast as Homers wink.gif

ARMA has arrived

My mood : w00t.gif

Posted by: LooseKannon Nov 30 2006, 11:26

Whew, Really?

Awesome smile.gif

Posted by: King Homer Nov 30 2006, 11:44

Dude, you have 1.800 Euros for instance, I just had 700, so it should be at least twice as good as mine smile.gif

You're currently bought/going to buy the system I always wanted smile.gif

On ArmA:
Got the controls a bit better now but still missing some general features like target acquisition via RMB. Can't find it in the optiones...

Posted by: Crankep Nov 30 2006, 13:18

It is in the game, the differance is that you have to hold the button instead of clicking (otherwise it goes to "raise weapon"). I think it's called something like "Target Lock" in the keymap.

Posted by: King Homer Nov 30 2006, 15:43

Thanks, found it, it's working now. Just found some other general bugs:
M2 ammo belt for the commander MG has no animation, but M249 and M240 belt has. No zoom in Commanderview, neither in Commander-MG.

Furthermore I get a strange error when starting ArmA:

No entry: \....\ArmA\ArmA.cfg.3D_Performance

After clicking OK the game starts normally. Anyone who knows what the problem is?

Posted by: Crankep Nov 30 2006, 15:48

No idea, but the no zoom in command mode is annoying. sad.gif

Posted by: The Lord Nov 30 2006, 17:43

Indeed, though remember this is still like 1.01 or 1.01 or something, when we finished with OFP it waqs near as perfect as it was ever gonna be smile.gif
KH, how did you get such a good PC for 700 euro?

Posted by: King Homer Nov 30 2006, 18:28

To tell you the truth: I had to lower my details today. Played a MP machted, no I tried it but it was lagging like hell. I don't have low FPS but the game was loading/stuck every 3 seconds and it was annoying. Currently all settings on normal, expect Anti Aliasing and Texture detail, they're still running on "high" but it seems to run quite smooth now.


Edit

Patch 1.01 for German Armed Assault version has been released.
http://www.morphicon.de/stuff/arma/Arma_GermanPatch_101.zip

Patch 1.01 for Czech Armed Assault version has been released.
http://armed-assault.de/downloads/patch-101-tschechisch.html


QUOTE
************************************************** *************************
*** 1.01

Performance:

- Significantly improved general performance of the German version
- Improved performance on shading detail and texture detail very low
- Optimized grass implementation
- Fixed bug in texture management: All textures could have been thrown away under certain conditions

Stability and Security:

- Some crash opportunities in multiplayer fixed.
- Crash when out of videomemory fixed
- Removed function exportLandscapeXYZ

AI:
- Pathfinding improvements
- Combat reaction improvements

Multiplayer:

- Dedicated server related improvements

Campaign:
- Improved missions endings in various conditions
- Fixed mission duration info



ENGINE CHANGE LOG
=================
1.01 - Fixed: Some users disconnected from the MP session after several minutes

1.01 - Fixed: Modified config test is obsolete and no longer supported.
Use verifySignatures=1 in the server.cfg to verify data are not modified by clients.
Note: this currently prevents using any 3rd party addons as they are not signed.

1.01 - Fixed: Lowering terrain grid increased overall settings indication.

1.01 - Fixed: Window flags changed to improve full-screen window border handling.

1.01 - New: Support for improved UI in dialogs during joining to dedicated server

1.01 - Changed: normal maps are not used when using "shading quality" "very low"

1.01 - Improved: AI pathfinding failing less often now

1.01 - Removed: function exportLandscapeXYZ

1.01 - Fixed: Tonemapping was not involved in the flare color calculation

1.01 - Fixed: NULL RT texture can be created now if possible as a shadow buffer resource - it will save some video RAM when using nVidia SB technique

1.01 - Fixed: 1x1 texture is created now as a shadow buffer resource, when using retail version of the DX - it will save some video RAM when using nVidia or ATI SB techniques

1.01 - Fixed: Fixed bug in texture management. All textures could have been thrown away under certain conditions

1.01 - Fixed: crash when out of videomemory

1.01 - Fixed: AI sometimes did not react to change formation command

1.01 - Fixed: AI more actively scanning visually for enemy when his position is not known.

1.01 - Fixed: AI sometimes planned path through walls

1.01 - Fixed: AI sometimes did not found path around mountains

1.01 - Fixed: Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgMarkers.'

1.01 - Fixed: Dedicated server can retranslate Voice Over Net packets

1.01 - Fixed: Possible crash when exiting multiplayer game.

1.01 - Fixed: Possible crash when hosting MP session

1.01 - Fixed: LOD selection for clutters was not working properly

1.01 - Fixed: Very low shading quality settings now invoke usage of very cheap shader for trees

1.01 - Fixed: Display for mission selecting / voting on dedicated server - mission list fixed

1.01 - Fixed: Crash in multiplayer lobby screen

1.01 - Fixed: Debriefing - mission duration info was wrong in campaign

1.01 - Fixed: Command interface, with ALT held should move cursor

1.01 - Fixed: Improved AI reaction to soldier being hit nearby.

1.01 - Fixed: Improved AI reaction to friendly units observed being killed.

1.01 - Fixed: AI reaction improved for enemies disembarking vehicles.

1.01 - Fixed: Unicode used for dedicated server console output.

1.01 - Fixed: Unicode used for debugger output (OutputDebugString)

Posted by: da rat Nov 30 2006, 18:41

Has that patch made a difference for you KH?

Posted by: King Homer Nov 30 2006, 18:46

+50% performance I'd say.

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