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Posted by: brataccas Dec 6 2006, 18:21
Im deciding to do either taikondu or karate, kung fu is out of the question cos its only on for a few hours a week, what one should I do!?!?! karate looks more fun and painful, and I like pain, plz help me decide 
Posted by: d@nte Dec 6 2006, 18:30
i made muay thai during 2 years, it's not for the little girls, so i doubt, you can do that too 
Posted by: Jimboob Dec 6 2006, 20:12
It really depends on what you want to learn, be it self defense, throws, holds, etc
Posted by: Lt. Earth Apple Dec 6 2006, 21:11
Well, I you want to defend yourself very complicated, styleless but very effective...
You should try out Jyu Itsu (don't know how it's written).
I made that for a year, and you learn interesting and effetice basics about breakind shoulder with a simply move of you hand when somebody push or pull you
Posted by: Blackscorpion Dec 6 2006, 22:23
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jujitsu
"Jujitsu? I'm gonna learn... jujitsu?"
Posted by: Crankep Dec 6 2006, 22:52
If you want to learn to defend yourself there are better ways than karate. I suggest Krav Maga or Systema (especialy Systema) but the latter one might be a bit hard to find a class for, depending on where you live.
Posted by: Blackscorpion Dec 6 2006, 23:00
Yeah, and unless you're planning to kill/interrogate someone... very effective in stopping your attacker though, I've heard. Trained and sometimes referred to be developed for Spetznaz (well, GRU I guess) operatives. 
Posted by: JdB Dec 6 2006, 23:18
There is a difference between Krav Maga or Systema on one hand, and karate or kungfu on the other. The first are meant as ways to kill (offensive, use by armies) and the second are more a way of life, teaching respect and restraint instead of only teaching you how to beat people to death.
Posted by: NeMeSiS Dec 6 2006, 23:58
In that case you might aswell consider kickboxing
Anyways my dad did both tae kwondo (spelling?
) and karate for several years, AFAIK he preffered karate but ive no idea why.
Posted by: Spetsnaz Dec 7 2006, 00:34
May I suggest you take up boxing, are you looking for fitness or just something different?
If you want great fitness do boxing/ boxercise
If you want something different take up a martial art
Posted by: LooseKannon Dec 7 2006, 05:25
I would agree with Spetsnaz, martial arts are great fun to learn and look awesome if you ever get in a fight 
OT a bit, anyone that has played Metal Gear Solid 3 would have seen the CQC moves. What would that be?
Posted by: Spetsnaz Dec 7 2006, 08:55
look awesome if you ever get in a fight
See this is where I think martial arts is a let down - your trained to NOT use it
Posted by: BigglesTrevor Dec 7 2006, 18:38
i did judo, using it out of class is really not supposed to happen, same with karate. If your seriously wanting to do martial arts in order to hurt people you dont like your better of saving time and money by getting a knife.
Posted by: JdB Dec 7 2006, 20:00
i did judo, using it out of class is really not supposed to happen, same with karate. If your seriously wanting to do martial arts in order to hurt people you dont like your better of saving time and money by getting a knife.
Not really smart if you don't know how to use it, it would most likely be used against you.
And Braty lives in "that place where the cavemen live" (aka Scotland), so never bring a knife when all your enemies are bringing a longsword. That is soooooooo English
Posted by: The Lord Dec 8 2006, 18:51
Bratty if you live in Scotland have a look out for Sooyang Do Thats what I do and its really awesome. Pretty expensive as all martial arts are, but it gets you really fit and boosts your confidence no end. The one time I had to use it so far it worked flawlessly, but requires good amount of attendance. I been going for 2 years now, its great!
Posted by: brataccas Dec 9 2006, 00:48
thx for all the suggestions/help all 
Posted by: Linker Split Dec 9 2006, 11:40
maybe this one? (CQC)
anyway, tae kwon do for me... better way of life
Posted by: Lt. Earth Apple Dec 11 2006, 17:55
What's simply about a gun ?
Posted by: da rat Dec 11 2006, 18:04
What's simply about a gun ?
Precisley!
I'd love to do some Martial Arts though :rolleyes. My dad's colleague is a "Blackbelt, first dan" at some obscure martial art, and runs his own class, so I'll look into joining it methings
Posted by: JdB Dec 11 2006, 21:43
What's simply about a gun ?
The fact that it is outlawed in alot of civilised countries, and can easily be used against you?
Posted by: BigglesTrevor Dec 12 2006, 11:47
And Braty lives in "that place where the cavemen live" (aka Scotland), so never bring a knife when all your enemies are bringing a longsword. That is soooooooo English
actually they use the Claymore, heavy, rugged, and completly ineffective at proper man to man close quaters fighting. Besides the english tradition was to sit on a hill and Longbow the scotish to death
Martial arts is great for keeping active, and also its a challenge. i would recomend that anyone should give it a go.
Posted by: Crankep Dec 12 2006, 15:37
There is a difference between Krav Maga or Systema on one hand, and karate or kungfu on the other. The first are meant as ways to kill (offensive, use by armies) and the second are more a way of life, teaching respect and restraint instead of only teaching you how to beat people to death.
Yes I know, but that was my point. The karate moves aren't really designed for real life situations whilst Krav Maga or Systema is. If you are interested in a way of life, personal training etc etc, go karate etc. IF you are interested in self defense etc go Krav Maga or Systema. Simple.
Posted by: Lt. Earth Apple Dec 12 2006, 16:53
Thats true
Posted by: sim Dec 15 2006, 11:31
I second that.
I debated for ages what to take up, in the end I never got round to it, probably cos I couldn't be faffed.
I now do professional wrestling, yes the stuff you see on TV. Before anyone gives me the "its all fake" bollocks, try it out first. It hurts like hell due to the bumps you take in the ring and a lot of the moves if done properly could easily kill or disable an opponent, not that I'd want to, it's just handy to have that sort of stuff under your belt with the world we live in today
Posted by: Nik Dec 23 2006, 10:28
Systema is a good one, when i did it for a while I noticed it required alot of upperbody strength and speed.
Posted by: pMASTER Jan 4 2007, 11:52
i practised iudo for some years and reached the second grade of kyu, the blue belt...well today i´d have to lost some kilos before i could start with it again...
Posted by: Scorpion102 Jun 22 2007, 16:59
As you will already know Brataccas, I do Muay-Thai-Boxing. I would recommend it. Much better than Karate and all that.
Really, you either wanna be a swift fighter who does all this poop with his hands OR you wanna like be able to kill anyone by punching,kicking,kneeing,elbowing people.
But in Muay, you don't tend to use your hands as much as you would in Boxing. They are more like a guard and there for when you need it but all the power and skill really comes from your legs.
Posted by: Elliot Carver Jun 23 2007, 04:03
lo dude
Something to consider that could be classed as an art form (?) would be swimming and airsoft. After doing it for 3 years solid now my fitness levels have shot up uberly. I feel confident in the use of a gun and its upped my pain and fear factors. Add to that the leadership skills running squads, how to act calm and cool in heated stressful situations which works wonders for the job - got me at least 1 promotion. The best bit by far is the constant explosions and grenade attacks you face numb you to loud bangs. Standing in the office and someones car backfires everyone screams and ducks and your the only one standing looking around like ... what?
Tho that can backfire on you like it did for the squad sitting in Pizzahut at the end of a day of airsofting. Someone dropped a metal plate *boom* and we all hit the deck.
cheers
carver
Posted by: brataccas Sep 6 2007, 12:10
lol well ive done swimming for years, bored of it now tho, used to go paintballing few times but where I live theres no airsoft 
Posted by: Bence Nov 3 2007, 19:40
Lol Brat, wassup you little spammer king?
Posted by: Blackscorpion Nov 4 2007, 03:37
Gonna start Krav Maga tomorrow, most likely... already had 1 lesson for introduction, which just "happened" to be one of the basic courses last lessons.
Was pretty fun, still lacked the power and coordination so didn't do the moves at full speed... could barely move my arms after the lesson, ouch.
Posted by: SteampunkShoni May 18 2008, 15:55
[Quote from crankep]
Yes I know, but that was my point. The karate moves aren't really designed for real life situations whilst Krav Maga or Systema is. If you are interested in a way of life, personal training etc etc, go karate etc. IF you are interested in self defense etc go Krav Maga or Systema. Simple. [endquote]
Quite oftenly most arts are severly mis-understood! Ive been a shotokan karate practitioner for about seven years, yeah, 2nd dan. After a while, Just running through old movements again and again is the same for most styles. It get's boring for beginners and people who visit to spectate, simply because of mis-interpretation.
A lot of folks with their minds in eastern flicks expect jumping spin-kicks and bacflips off walls, and looking for movement similar to the karate kid, but don't get it.
The form is split up into sets of movements called Kata's, yeah they look wonderful, beautiful, WOW the audience all the time. Large, long and powerful movements, all over-emphasized and are expected to represent a one man unarmed civvy taking on a japaense fortress full of hostiles. But in reality that just aint gonna happen! Things change, you are more likely to be confronted today with a large smashed bottle than a steel blade.
And this is where karate is mis-understood. Yeah we realize that this is the truth, in all cases of any art for that matter, and a goor practitioner will more geared towards implemeting his chosen style with forethought as to which situation he is more likely to be confronted with. So, we look into our movements differently, and think about how and what it is they are trying to achieve! To the untrained eye, a movement looks impressive, and may appear to have a very basic output, but to the beginner black belt, he is only just starting to understand the deadly intent of his movements.
I Like shotokan karate, it's emphasis is power, speed and stamina, that's all you need. There's no magic dragon breathing flames from your eyes, there's no mountain warrior, just yourself in an unrban environment trying to protect yourself should the worst happen. Iv'e tried kung-fu, tae-kwondo, but i just didn't like the lack of modern discipline invovlved. I am told that in the early days of karate, Japs were jumping out of windows in dojo's and clubs, Simply because exreme discipline annd getting whacked. I can tell you, not much has changed since those days. Coming home with bumps and bruises after a session is highly rewarding; keeps you fit, makes you tougher. and increases your sense of humour strangely enough.
Rant Over.
Shoni
And the best defence of all, if it's possible, is to run away!
Posted by: SaS TrooP May 19 2008, 15:06
Kung-Fu in fact, but I am not so good in it.
Posted by: JynX May 20 2008, 18:08
Not done it since I finished 5th year at high school but I've done Kun Gek Do/Gwon-gyokdo for a year un graded and have been tempted to start doing Shōrin-ryū at the Uni but the projected amount academic work that i'll have next year probably rules out most sport aside from windsurfing
Posted by: Hornet85 Jul 14 2008, 12:25
Im doing Krav Maga
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xhKjpdWyYMc
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-ajaQ2j0Al0&feature=related
Posted by: GIJOE94 Aug 14 2008, 13:09
You too huh? Nice! I do Krav Maga Israeli Martial Arts. I'm P3 equivelant (I'm to young to grade) Very violent but fun combat system. You can only do it (In england this is) if you have done martial arts before. I currently hold a black belt 1st dan in san bu do Karate, and have trained in brazilian jujitsu, jujitsu, aikedo, samba and Silat.
Posted by: tsd1 Aug 22 2008, 05:33
When I was in the Army I participated in Brazilian jujitsu classes offered. In basic training we did about 16 hours worth of introductory stuff as well, I have to say as far as "ease of learning" its great. Everything is simple yet effective easy to pick up as long as you drill, theres not much to it as far as standing up though, the key is getting your opponent on the ground by any means possible, but once on the ground you can pretty much take them apart.
Posted by: Avalla'ch Aug 22 2008, 15:09
yeah and where can I learn Systema...well not counting the army O_o
Posted by: Hornet85 Aug 30 2008, 07:57
Havent hered abut any military using Systema..
Denmark
Norway
Sweden
Germany
UK
USA
France
Israel
is using Krav Maga.
You can lern the civilian version in almost any big town.
But dont think the civilian version is any thing like the military one, In the civilian you lern self defence.
In the military one you lern to kill your enemy, and iam not talking baut stoping just bekus he is down,
If hes not dead jump on his head and then move on...
Posted by: Avalla'ch Aug 30 2008, 09:50
Denmark
Norway
Sweden
Germany
UK
USA
France
Israel
is using Krav Maga.
You can lern the civilian version in almost any big town.
But dont think the civilian version is any thing like the military one, In the civilian you lern self defence.
In the military one you lern to kill your enemy, and iam not talking baut stoping just bekus he is down,
If hes not dead jump on his head and then move on...
but this mostly doesn't work againts skinhead groups
(100% real-life tested)
Posted by: JdB Aug 30 2008, 14:38
Well, considering the term is associated with several martial arts used by Russian SF, I would expect they are using it...
Posted by: SouthSaturnDelta Sep 11 2008, 22:00
"Have I done Martial arts?"
No.
Posted by: Avalla'ch Sep 12 2008, 21:44
Yup but a bit useless post don't ya think mate ? :-P
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nice work all
of you.
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