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Wittmann
post Sep 17 2007, 18:04
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TBH I usually forget about the blocks, way to much going on to remember when I gave them out and why...


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post Sep 17 2007, 18:22
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QUOTE(Wittmann @ Sep 17 2007, 19:04) *
TBH I usually forget about the blocks, way to much going on to remember when I gave them out and why...


That's what the warninglogs are for, I click them on occasion to see when people got theirs.


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post Sep 17 2007, 18:23
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I usually think 'what a pretty orange block' and bypass that tongue.gif


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post Sep 17 2007, 21:39
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@Jdb

It was because I've used something from mod options... I've asked to Witty if I can but he was drunk ! ohmy.gif
So he answered me "Yes" then forgotten that xD

Other WB are from the little shitty war between CoPèTe and me xD


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post Sep 17 2007, 22:19
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QUOTE(Rewan @ Sep 17 2007, 22:39) *
@Jdb

It was because I've used something from mod options... I've asked to Witty if I can but he was drunk ! ohmy.gif


No, it was also because you spammed dedicated threads. Anyway, it's gone now, don't make it have a comeback wink.gif

Edit: also one for BloodOmen removed.


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post Sep 18 2007, 11:53
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post Sep 21 2007, 21:23
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lo folks,

*draws line under previous topic biggrin.gif*
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I have a few questions and a suggestion:

1. JdB noted in the ArmA II thread that VBS discussion was disallowed on the board but it does not state that clearly on the rule sheet. May i recommend we update the rules to show this please? smile.gif

2. Ownership and responsibilities of Mod threads. Something id like to clear up in my mind at least. Who governs direction of chat in mod threads ie: off topic? Also what responsibilities / moderation options does the mod thread owner have/hold over the thread?


cheers folks
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post Sep 22 2007, 00:48
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QUOTE(Elliot Carver @ Sep 21 2007, 22:23) *
lo folks,


I have a few questions and a suggestion:

1. JdB noted in the ArmA II thread that VBS discussion was disallowed on the board but it does not state that clearly on the rule sheet. May i recommend we update the rules to show this please? smile.gif

2. Ownership and responsibilities of Mod threads. Something id like to clear up in my mind at least. Who governs direction of chat in mod threads ie: off topic? Also what responsibilities / moderation options does the mod thread owner have/hold over the thread?


cheers folks
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-While I wouldn't mind having a dedicated VBS thread in OT Discussions, it is against site policy (IIRC, our old host didn't want anything but BIS news being posted, discussed etc). I don't know if it's still the case since we switched hosts for this site, I'll ask Cervo. The rules don't precisely state many more things, because if we would determine every allowed and disallowed subject into detail, this forum would be a jail. Whether it is allowed or not is partially left upto the moderator in question. In the right context we might allow a subject that might otherwise be disallowed (i.e. a thread about a battling MP-cheats with anti-cheating system for ArmA that does not include posting (part of) the cheat or directions on how to get them). It's just written in the rules as "no talking about MP-cheats", but under specific circumstances it is allowed. I did moderate one such thread (that's how I got the example), as part of the code had been posted, but the idea was ok imo. An extensive set of rules is nice, but similar to Ai algorithms, a decent brain will beat it most of the times.

-Topics, I suppose, belong to their original creator, but can be overruled by a leader of the mod in question, if he wishes the topic he did not create closed, edited to remove false information or stolen links etc. It is after all his intellectual property being discussed/shared with the world.


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post Sep 22 2007, 23:50
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I've talked to Cervo, and therefore I can decree:

-No VBS thread;
-No VBS information
-No VBS discussion;
-No VBS questions
-No VBS pictures;
-Or anything else related to VBS.

All above with the freedom of "none what so ever" wink.gif

"VBS" being "Virtual Battle Space", regardless if it's version 1, 2, 666 etc.

We had a thread related to VBS (not actively recently, but to anticipate on a member actually using the Search button), it has been locked.

The rules will hopefully be updated soon to expand on the "No VBS" rule.


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post Sep 23 2007, 00:53
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Cheers JdB and Cervo for clearing that up smile.gif
Carver thumbsup.gif


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post Sep 23 2007, 11:28
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[Update] of the rules regarding VBS. Read it, remember it, meditate on it for all we care, as long as you don't post about VBS we won't have to unleash nasty consequences naughty.gif


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post Sep 23 2007, 13:01
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If you do we track you like an animal, tranq. you, bundle you into a container bound and ship you direct to Cervo who will do many wicked things to you, like make you listen to French rap and then let Rewan talk to you for 48 hours straight while your gagged. Thats only the beginning.


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post Oct 2 2007, 09:59
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hey guys, just want to comment on the closure of the WW2 grenade box (http://forum.armedassault.info/index.php?showtopic=953) . The forum rules clearly state

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§7)Do not start threads relating to discussions on other boards


What happens in this forum should stay in this forum and vice versa, conversations other than those strictly relating to ArmA matters should not be brought into these forums from others.


JdB has closed this thread due to
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Reason being that you open a thread like this regularly on forums that I visit


Surly Rule 7 of forum conduct should also apply to the moderation. If somone has a banned account on the BI forums we dont immediatly ban them here.

It also seems ridiculious to me that a moderator should close a thread in the addon section becuase he feels there is a lack of dedication to the project from the person in question. To me that is irrelevant.

Sorry to have to bring this up but it really bugged me.


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post Oct 2 2007, 12:23
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i agree with JDB. because Gijoe begins a lot of stuff, and each time. this is "i don't know how to ...., i can't do .... etc etc etc etc etc)

he should stop to ask for help and start to learn with all the links given by a lot of members.

if he wants some help, np. but he needs to begin something. make an uvmapping for a crate is not difficult. and he can find a lot of wood textures with google.

and if he wants really some help. we have a topic "Modeling/Texturing Problem Thread". i would be happy to explain to him some things. but i don't want to make the job for him


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post Oct 2 2007, 12:54
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I don't agree 100% with JdB, but I do disagree with Biggles, I think if someone was banned from somewhere like the BI Forums for excessive spamming and the like we should be more careful with them here.

I mean, if Madcow, Fatcroc or skullhunter signed up here, you wouldn't expect moderators to ignore their performances on OFP.info, would you?


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As far as I'm concerned I don't buy grounds like that, and please not because it was JdBs decision.
We shouldn't have preemptive measures in our sleeves or punish someone for a violation of rules that happened somewhere else, we are not the European Union.


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post Oct 2 2007, 14:32
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1st of all as D@nte pointed out we do have a special thread for modeling/texturing problems where "our" modellers are willing to help anyone who is experiencing problems.

2nd : He was also informed about various basics and modeling tutorials in our forums, here are a few examples :


http://forum.armedassault.info/index.php?s...pic=878&hl= (linker pointing him to basic tutorials)

http://forum.armedassault.info/index.php?s...c=684&st=40 (he tells new members of his mod to learn texturing/modeling using brssebs tuts)

http://forum.armedassault.info/index.php?s...rsseb&st=20 (me telling him how to learn modeling in ofp/arma)

The decision to close down the thread was correct, it wasn't the first time Joe was pointed to learn the basics after demanding for someone to do the major work for him , which leads to the fact, that ignoring several advises and continuing to ask the "same" stuff can be considered as spam.

I'll comment on the BI stuff later, don't have time atm


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QUOTE(BigglesTrevor @ Oct 2 2007, 10:59) *
If someone has a banned account on the BI forums we don't immediately ban them here.

It also seems ridiculous to me that a moderator should close a thread in the addon section because he feels there is a lack of dedication to the project from the person in question. To me that is irrelevant.


I've seen him posting this type of thread again and again, on forums including this one (which falls under "forums I visit regularly"), and that is what the decision is based on. The users reluctance to learn from the advice by senior addonmakers proves it is justified that I closed that thread. As Deadeye pointed out, please do some research into someone's posting behaviour before making accusations. We do not allow 20 Community Chatter threads, so why should we allow several ones about GIJOE94 asking someone to texture something, getting help on texturing and ignoring it, after which creating another thread?

If I have re-read my post correctly, the only time I mentioned "BIS forums" was in the following sentence: "On the BIS forums people have suggested that you read tutorials and try to make textures to practice."

That was not the reason I closed the thread, that was my advice to him to make use of the help provided by other people, I closed the thread because he keeps making threads asking for help, but ignores when people don't give him the help he expects (sitting in a chair, seeing all the work on "your" mod being done by others). I've seen people linking to threads on the BIS forums when they needed help regarding a certain subject. Do we need to rehash everything just because it wasn't said on our own forums? Do I need to start handing out warning blocks to everyone that links to a forum outside of this forum? I think not. The BIS forums are bigger and has many more active addonmakers posting on it. He has ignored help on both forums to help him to learn how to texture, the new topic being nothing but a rehash of the previous one. GIJOE94 asking for help on making a mod/addon, but not wanting to put in the effort himself.

I was trying to give him advice, but if people just want cold, emotionless moderating from me, that is possible to. The rest can be found in d@nte's post above.


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post Oct 2 2007, 19:40
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And yet, we have the .info factbook which is basically a second chatter thread! tongue.gif

Hooray for Hipocracy!


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post Oct 2 2007, 19:55
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QUOTE(D@V£ @ Oct 2 2007, 20:40) *
And yet, we have the .info factbook which is basically a second chatter thread! tongue.gif

Hooray for Hipocracy!


That is because people made it into that. After reading through it, it's not that off-topic, most of it still deals with the sadistic, perverted daily activities of the Team.

Hooray for PR'ed, or otherwise violated members that spam the Moderation Feedback Thread with sarcasm... rolleyes.gif


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