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Wittmann
In this thread you have the only place in the forums where moderation can be discussed freely and in public. Here you can post your questions regarding the rules, suggest any improvements or share your ideas toward making this forum a friendly and safe community for all ArmA fans or ask questions.

This thread however is not a place to flame moderation staff or spam, all posts must abide by forum rules and must discuss valid issues or raise a valid idea or point.

Last update to rules: 19th November 2010
JdB
First Rewan's OFP Comref was moved to [this section], it shows a link with that. Now that it was closed it shows another link, the one with the closed symbol before it. This is unlike the older IPB version of the OFP.info forum....a different link for every moderating decision....it's irritating.
Cervo
Well I don't think it's made to be moved to a new forum then removed back. Or the moderator moving it just needs to untick "keep link in previous forum".
JdB
That's not the problem. Right now on the OFP.info forums, a topic is moved, the forward link remains in the old section, and the "real" topic is in the right section. However on this forum, even in the section where Wittman moved it to, it shows a "Moved" thread link that links to the real thread which is right above it....makes no sense....
Rewan
I've try something on it: You still see it ? blink.gif
JdB
Nope.
BigglesTrevor
this is wrong threade realy but what i want to say is not worthy of a seperate thread. i tried making a account "trevorofcrete" and remembered my e-mail was bust, so went ahead and made this one. just thougt you should know so that account can be deactivated or blocked or somthing. its not authorised so maybe it will just disapear?
Wittmann
You need to activate your acocunt via email so it will not be listed
JdB
[This] becomes annoying really fast... __yuk.gif
Rellikki
QUOTE(JdB @ Nov 12 2006, 04:08) *

[This] becomes annoying really fast... __yuk.gif


Hmmm blink.gif

It doesn't appear like that for me, but I'll see if I can get him to change it. blues.gif

Thanks for informing.
JdB
The problem I suspect is that he didn't put any spaces, otherwise it should be fine.
LooseKannon
I second that motion. Mods, time to shine rofl.gif

Cheers all, have a good one smile.gif
BigglesTrevor
QUOTE(Wittmann @ Nov 8 2006, 02:49) *

You need to activate your acocunt via email so it will not be listed


yes, i made a polite comment about it because it bugged me
Wittmann
I edited CaFs account so it should not be an issue
Linker Split
Is there any way to make this forum more fast? :huh:
Rellikki
QUOTE(Linker Split @ Nov 12 2006, 13:06) *

Is there any way to make this forum more fast? :huh:


Should be faster now wink.gif
d@nte
yeah, for me now, the forum works fine, thx to the team. wink.gif

http://gifsmaniac.free.fr/toons/southpark/south014.gif
Red Square Monkey
Okay, some suggestions...

Wouldn't it be better to have the exact same layout, buttons etc. like the OFP forum? Just to show that the two forums are 'family' of each other (of course the buttons must be given a brownish color to fit in with this forum).

The current buttons could be blurred a bit, by the way (don't know if they're the standard ones...). They're fugly.

And what about some kind of background image like on William's blog? The chocolate-chip camo scheme would fit perfect in this forum smile.gif
Wittmann
This is the MODERATION feedback thread, not a website suggestion thread...

The buttons will be replaced later on, this si being worked on at the moment by Cervo and Serial Killer
JB™
QUOTE(Wittmann @ Nov 5 2006, 11:27) *


This thread however is not a place to flame moderation staff or spam, all posts must abide by forum rules and must discuss valid issues or raise a valid idea or point.


Silly question but where are the forum rules?
Rellikki
QUOTE(JB™ @ Nov 16 2006, 12:52) *

Silly question but where are the forum rules?


You can see them, once you enter any board, under your "location", in this case below the
"Armed Assault Info Forums > English > About our website" text.

I first had problems finding the rules too, they should be placed somewhere where people would actually see them. blink.gif
JB™
Thanks SK,

I got a warning for my sig but I couldnt find the rules stating what the limits were etc.
Wittmann
Well look at the top of a forum.

See that big reddish box with 'forum rules' written in it? tongue.gif

IPB Image

Compared tot he old forum which didn't have the said red box, I wouldn't think its hard to miss since is designed to draw attention to the link.
King Homer
I thought you must read the rules before registering? If not, we should add this, so no one can say: I didn't see them! _weapons_owned.gif
DaRat
Perhaps like that system where you have to scroll to the bottom of a textbox before you can click OK. I used to get so f**cked by that laugh.gif
Deadeye
QUOTE(JdB @ Nov 12 2006, 03:08) *

[This] becomes annoying really fast... __yuk.gif


What kind of Browser are you using?
Firefox?
JdB
Yes.

If it is all typed without spaces, the computer can't distinguish seperate words, and thinks they are one, putting them on the same line, which causes the layout to stretch.
Wittmann
Avatar settings updated, now allows 100 x 100 to a max of 100kb filesize wink.gif
LooseKannon
Excellent. The plan is falling into place...

... by that I mean I can now use my specail reserved '100x100 only' avatars smile.gif
Zipper5
Finally, thank God. Always had to resize my avatars only for these forums. hmmsmiley02.gif
King Homer
Ah, just noted lately and updated my avatar.
Wittmann
No feedback? No queries? Complaints? No one wants to know how far the plan for our world dominion forced through force of arms is going?

Dont be afraid to debate or ask in here, this is the one thread where 'no public discussion of forum moderation' is waived so long as its clean smile.gif
JdB
No news = good news I guess wink.gif
Wittmann
Either no news or they are still afraid tongue.gif
Elliot Carver
IM NOT AFRIAD!!

No feedback?
The sites awsome. Cervo keeps the site tip top. Admins keep everyone in line and we have a healthy amount of regular posters. Nuf said ^^

No queries?
Can i have access to the admin cp? tongue.gif
Can you alow html in posts so i can copy the intire forums into a thread and call it my own?

Complaints?
Its 11:30pm and there isnt any drink around...anymore

*runs away and hides before he gets struck down with PR*
tongue.gif carver
Wittmann
No, Mabye and Go buy some smile.gif
BigglesTrevor
i must say i found the pr'ing of brat to be a little harsh. i think with our community being its size (and also the thread in question) rules like the one mentioned can be turned a blind eye too aslong as they dont happen often. Perhaps brat deserved it as to the sheer cheekyness, however i dont feel the initial warning after pmasters post needed to really be made. it all seemed a bit....pointless. Its not asif pmaster did somthing that is a regular annoyance for the moderators (eg. posting a pic over 100kb). Its sort of like political correctness.
JdB
QUOTE(BigglesTrevor @ Sep 1 2007, 16:43) *
i must say i found the pr'ing of brat to be a little harsh. i think with our community being its size (and also the thread in question) rules like the one mentioned can be turned a blind eye too aslong as they dont happen often. Perhaps brat deserved it as to the sheer cheekyness, however i dont feel the initial warning after pmasters post needed to really be made. it all seemed a bit....pointless. Its not asif pmaster did somthing that is a regular annoyance for the moderators (eg. posting a pic over 100kb). Its sort of like political correctness.


It's as much a rule as those preventing warez and porn being posted on these forums, adverts being made for commercial services, and as such it will be enforced. Just because some rules may look innocent, or there is no moderator around to enforce them, does not mean they don't have to be followed, if a rule was not needed then it would not exist, and like Wittmann already explained we are quite happy with the current set of rules, and have no plans to alter them.

Brattaccas made a mockery of the forum staff by doing exactly what had been asked not to do only a few posts above. As such this rule applied:

QUOTE
§3)Follow the instructions of the moderators
When an administrator or moderator asks you to do something or to stop doing something, please follow their instructions, if you're unhappy with their instructions feel free to PM them or another moderator or administrator. Do NOT discuss this in the thread itself, otherwise it will be considered spam and you will be punished forwith. You have the right to discuss your position with a moderator or an administrator so long as you remain unabusive and reasonable. Your punishment can be reduced or removed at the discretion of a moderator or administrator.


If you read this through, you will also see that discussing the moderators' decision like pMaster did is not allowed in the thread itself. Such things are preferably done by PM, or the Moderation Feedback Thread. It exists for a reason: to keep the other topics free of bickering smile.gif
BigglesTrevor
and that is why i have posted here and not there. I just fear with such a smalll community heavy strict by the rail moderation could put alot of people off. anyway ill leave the matter at that, its not really somthing to make into a big deal anyway.
Elliot Carver
Lo folks,

I have to agree with Trev here. Were a small community of 20 regular posting 'mature' friends who chat amongst ourselves and provide a service to those who have problems. We all know each other by first name, we know where we all live and we've known each other for years. Too the letter moderation will only upset and alienate people. Were all equal here, we have to be with such low numbers. I talked about my kicking from BiForums last week in the community chatter thread. It was against the rules but it was topical. We had a chat about it and later witty reminded us that it wast really allowd and that was that. Moderators need to reactively enforce the rules. They need to be sensible, communicate and support people as they are the backbone of the community there to ensure the smooth running of the forum.

The results of a mod team going wrong on a forum can be seen on the BIForums.


Lets not end up there.
thanks, Carver
Wittmann
Brat has got a 48 hour PR for posting outside moderation feedback again, if he had done it here, he would have been fine. At the end of the day, Brat never liked JdB so I think this is the issue.

Ive reminded everyone in our little secret world domination forum that moderators and admins consider the member, if they have committed the offence before and in what context the action was done before action will be taken, a PM and an edit into the post saying 'please dont do this again' will still be the preferred action for minor things as we know it works well here and we usually have no trouble with the regulars once this is done, you guys generally take it on board and dont do it again, which is great. I dont want to drive anyone away without good reason.

However, those who start a crusade outside this thread, will get our wrath, that's one rule we do enforce heavily. Thanks to those who did put their 2 cents in here. At the end of the day also, if your not happy with a moderation decision AFTER posting here, PM Deadeye or myself as the admin's and we will look into it and see if we can do anything, but no promises.
Rewan
I begin to think that there will be more rules than active members if JdB stay as an mod...


Well just a thought tongue.gif
Wittmann
Id rather him a mod than you though tongue.gif
Rewan
I don't care about being a mod or not:

I just want a peacefull forum...
The Lord
Oh dear god, not this again!

I think I am getting Dejavu!!
JdB
QUOTE
This thread however is not a place to flame moderation staff or spam, all posts must abide by forum rules and must discuss valid issues or raise a valid idea or point.


After reading the first post of this thread, it seems that the last few posts don't exactly fill the "requirement" for discussing valid issues or raising valid points. It's just sheer terror (understandable), through mild spam, not backed up by any kind of well formulated opinion making use of facts or well thought out sentences.

(Took me a while to come up with that cool.gif )

If you want to get anything done around here, you need to come up with something better put into writing, members of the moderating staff are notoriously lazy happy.gif
Wittmann
Personally aside from Brat launching a minor insurrection of his own I haven't seen much outside the usual going on. Much ado about nothing really. If you are following the rules or heed a 'please dont do that again' PM or edit, you've nothing to worry about...same place. If Homer had the time to stay on god knows he would probably be MORE of a hard ass, you've just been used to living in sin for too long with myself so busy tongue.gif

Now you all behave or we will actually LET JdB MEET Cervo, and we will also give Rewan moderation rights for a day and tell him to go nuts.
Dont make me turn this forum around... wink.gif
brataccas
QUOTE(BigglesTrevor @ Sep 1 2007, 15:43) *
i must say i found the pr'ing of brat to be a little harsh.


absaloutly.

QUOTE(BigglesTrevor @ Sep 1 2007, 15:43) *
i think with our community being its size (and also the thread in question) rules like the one mentioned can be turned a blind eye too aslong as they dont happen often.


I agree with this, I consider quite a lot of people here my actual friends because the joy of meeting people online means you can know a bit/lot about them and you may want to meet up, Ive actually met one person for real on ofp.info and plan to make it a second (bence from arma.eu) as he is coming to scotland) I havent met him for real but we know each well so when we meet it makes it easier to get to know even faster kinda thing, so the same rule applies to everyone here, If I got the chance to meet any of you I would do so. that PRing of me is like a group of people or friends ie the regulars in this forum, we have known each other for years online, biggles, witty, d@ve etc many others, even I consider witty a good m8 to talk to yet witty would rather PR me as if im some kinda spambot, so these stupid rules these mods have really ruin the forum sad.gif

QUOTE(BigglesTrevor @ Sep 1 2007, 15:43) *
Perhaps brat deserved it as to the sheer cheekyness, however i dont feel the initial warning after pmasters post needed to really be made. it all seemed a bit....pointless. Its not asif pmaster did somthing that is a regular annoyance for the moderators (eg. posting a pic over 100kb). Its sort of like political correctness.


It was a bit cheeky ye but I was proving a point that its silly warning someone for posting a single smiley, I mean omg, I actually told a few of my friends this (reallife) and they were in stiches of laughter smile.gif, assumed the ppl were weird geeks lol with literally nothing else to do in their short lives, but ye if you hadnt PRed me and let me be then you woudnt of got all this flak, its almost as though you were egging me on kinda thing, sad.

QUOTE(JdB @ Sep 1 2007, 18:36) *
It's as much a rule as those preventing warez and porn being posted on these forums, adverts being made for commercial services, and as such it will be enforced. Just because some rules may look innocent, or there is no moderator around to enforce them, does not mean they don't have to be followed, if a rule was not needed then it would not exist, and like Wittmann already explained we are quite happy with the current set of rules, and have no plans to alter them.


thats really sad when you look at that, because its as if the forum is treating its members as though they need their hand held constantly, this is a peaceful forum, and the rules are way too strong, hence why this forum could of had a lot of members, and its prob the reason why so many left ofp.info aswell, (before arma release etc)

quote: "Everything was ok until Lthunter came back"

not my words but ye, "they" have a point.

QUOTE(JdB @ Sep 1 2007, 18:36) *
Brattaccas made a mockery of the forum staff by doing exactly what had been asked not to do only a few posts above. As such this rule applied:
If you read this through, you will also see that discussing the moderators' decision like pMaster did is not allowed in the thread itself. Such things are preferably done by PM, or the Moderation Feedback Thread. It exists for a reason: to keep the other topics free of bickering smile.gif


proving a point ye. to show up how bad the forum is, rules wise.

Ironic how you say free of bickering when you just created more "bickering" when you PRed me, so as I said if you just let it drop there would be less mess smile.gif

QUOTE(BigglesTrevor @ Sep 2 2007, 00:06) *
and that is why i have posted here and not there. I just fear with such a smalll community heavy strict by the rail moderation could put alot of people off.


very true, this forum has a lot of potential if the staff werent so heavy handed, and happy trigger with the PR buttons smile.gif It probably "coudnt" put people off it HAS done so smile.gif

QUOTE(Elliot Carver @ Sep 2 2007, 02:11) *
Lo folks,

I have to agree with Trev here. Were a small community of 20 regular posting 'mature' friends who chat amongst ourselves and provide a service to those who have problems. We all know each other by first name, we know where we all live and we've known each other for years. Too the letter moderation will only upset and alienate people. Were all equal here, we have to be with such low numbers. I talked about my kicking from BiForums last week in the community chatter thread. It was against the rules but it was topical. We had a chat about it and later witty reminded us that it wast really allowd and that was that. Moderators need to reactively enforce the rules. They need to be sensible, communicate and support people as they are the backbone of the community there to ensure the smooth running of the forum.

The results of a mod team going wrong on a forum can be seen on the BIForums.


Lets not end up there.
thanks, Carver


I agree with all that, everyone must think im an idiot or spamming noob but not anymore apart from arma.eu for other reasons... BI forums are a shithole, its minging, cold and downright unfriendly, my first impressions of this forum was good until now, it has a warm feel to it, ppl u know etc, only to be ruined by the moderators themselves, not cool.

QUOTE(Wittmann @ Sep 2 2007, 02:36) *
Brat has got a 48 hour PR for posting outside moderation feedback again,


you are too kind, xmas come early?


QUOTE(Wittmann @ Sep 2 2007, 02:36) *
Brat never liked JdB so I think this is the issue.


Ive never said that and I never will, plz dont bullshit

QUOTE(Wittmann @ Sep 2 2007, 02:36) *
Dont make me turn this forum around...


maybe you should, it was much better that way.




Wittmann
Well the state I inherited OFP.info in begs to differ. Rules are rules. Its the way of the world. Agree with them, disagree with them...whatever. But they must be followed. Its not personal Brat, anyone who breaks the rules has to deal with the consequences. Maybe my view is thus as I come from family with a strong element serving in the Police? But regardless, in the real world, if you break the established laws of a society, you will be punished. You can say certain things, do pretty much as you wish, but there is a line. Its the same here. Id rather not PR you but on the same token, Im not going to let you off scot free (No pun intended) just because I like you.
pMASTER
Folks we must stay honest...We simply were not accustomed to moderation of this forum anymore. Some of the rules really appear to be totally pointless but one argument of Witty convinced me: We accepted the rules when we registered once.
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