Hi, What kind of adverstisment do you plan to put on this site?
I really hope its not the kind that I seeon ofp.info now. with verry anoying popups, spyware messages, system cleanup tools, dating sites etc.
MOst times it takes me about 15 clicks to get to the site. And when I put on my popup blocker I dont get the site at all!!

If you want to be a quality site, do some research in quality adverts too.

I would second that. But as it is almost impossible to get sponsering from big military/decent organsiations i expect were gunna have the same 'meet a stripper in your local area' and "fancy getting laid tonight by a granny?" messages. I guess its also to do with who owns the server. From what ive heard of the dude who does on the ofp.info site hes pretty much into one night stands and making money from the links.
dude, get Opera, it blocks all the rubish and gives you the website instead
cheeres
carver

As said by many people on OFP.info many times: The host decides the contents of the ads, not the OFP.info/ArmA.info team. Complaining to the host won't change anything, using the Firefox webbrowser with AdBlock extension will.

Why would you want a host that put ad's on your website!? Kinda strange if you ask me. My webhost doesn't put any ad's on my website, thank god no.

financial reasons?

Do you know how much Cervo has to pay for the site? The ads only pay a bit of it, he still has to pay a lot of money. As long as Users don't pay for a site they shouldn't complain about something they don't like about it. As JdB said, use a PopUp-Blocker and you will have no or much less problems (works fine for me).

Damn, i hate people which only complain about things they know nothing about...

Cervo adding the adverts himself is something REALLY different then the HOSTER adding the adverts. Someone might have made a typo, or I misunderstood something.

I do know that hosting a large community is expensive. I am an admin of a large community myself. And yes, we got adverts without pop-ups that is. But our hoster doesn't force us to put them there. We decide that ourself. So don't tell me I know nothing without actually knowing who I am, flaming is not necessary.

Im not complaining, just pointing in the right direction. I cant belive cervo has no control over the adverts his host forces him. Maybe search a better one? (I cant really judge because I dont know the BW and space you use, but there are lots of godo offers)

ok, excuse my diction, but i am a bit irritated by all those people telling us that stuff with the advertisments. And after some time you react like the way i did... its just annoying.

@rundll: Well, so tell us some alternatives and don't only say "there are better offers". You need to know that Cervo and the other guys have also a private life and so you can't afford that much time in searching the best offers etc pp. And the actual system worked quite good for us

i dont see any problem with just scrolling over the unliked adverts or using and adblock tool...let´s finish the debate here.

So it seems I did understood it right. Indeed, its a shame he has no control over the ad's.

@X-ray, I might flamed you a bit, sorry about that. People often think I am a newbie/n00b because they don't know me and my postcount is not really high. And yes, that also gets pretty annoying

Has nothing to do with someone being a newbie, contrariwise, i can pardon a newbie something like that more than an older member.
I think pMaster is right, lets finish it here, PM Cervo if you want to make him proposals

and btw, its "x-ray", not "X-Ray" =P

I did typed 'X-ray' and not 'X-Ray' ;p
And yes, I think Cervo needs to end this by replying here. So everybody knows whats going on.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

I don't like the popups too, don't worry! I really want armedassault.info popup free and clean, I guess I will add the classic google adverts you see on usual sites (I do hope they will covert at least partially the costs of renting dedicated servers, backup server, board perpetual license and site coding/dev costs) but not more than that.

Ah, So this is actually being hosted on a dedi-serv? Thats quite expensive indeed. Anyway, thanks alot for making ArmedAssault.info as pop-up as it is now.

lol me sorry if i came across as complaing lol not intended at all. What i will ask tho is there any way we can donate? 99% of the boards i have either had or membered of always asked for voluntry donations from users. Id have nothing against giving cervo say $50 towards the running of the site. I wouldnt expect anything in return either! lol may be a little "im helping to keep ArmA.info alive" bumper sticker

is it possible to go to the host and say "look, we run a forum that is used by kids, is it possible to get some more appropriate ads?"

Kids? You mean people aged from 16 - 30. The only kid I know is Rewan.

yeah, i'm not a kid. i don't think that the host make the difference between adult or kids (except for the host which are specialized in the sex)

i know were not , mostly , but perhaps telling them that we are we might perswade them to remove some of the more distasful ads. personally im not so bovered i just ignore them, im just trying to help

Ok, this is pretty wierd anyway how we all get the Ad's to differing degrees. Since I got SP2, I only get one ad on my first click of any link of the links of ofp.info. And yeah, we get the ad's on the SIDE of the page -well out of the way- like "click here to meet sexigurl69" but who cares? Just don't click them if you're not interested. I'm sure even Rewan doesn't mind ad's like that

Technically there should not be children playing OFP in most nations anyway and I take it that goes for ArmA, the age in Australia is generally 15 and over (I assure you any 15 year old lad has googled worse) and the majority of players now are nearing 20 years of age or over...

You never know, over the net people can seem alot different in age than they actualy are. How old do you think I am?

Not everybody visiting this website has a reigstered username. Trust me, there are kids visiting this place.

Yeah I'm sure about that, but in general the community consists of people aged 16+ (15 in some countries), at least because younger people can't buy the game.

England is so relaxed about stuff like game buying ages though. I'd say about 80-95% of stores won't even care if you're underage when you buy a game (I was in the queue in Gamestation and the kid in front of me who looked about 12 bought gta:sa without even being asked for ID)

Officially they can't. But here in the Netherlands they are no really paying much attention to it. For example: If they actually tell you that you are to young to buy it (the chance they actually ask that is below 5%) you can just tell them that your parents allowed you to buy the game. And then 16+ is not 18+.

My lil brother tried to buy Counterstrike in a local store, they didn't sell CS to him and called his mum to tell her about his illegal actions.
Then he asked me to get CS for him and, but I'd never touch this game.

Well he mamaged to get it anyways, but "somehow" the main OS of the PC changed from windows to Ubuntu and it took him days to find out how to boot windows properly
Edit: Sry slightly Off-Topic

Your're evil

But really, if store 'X' doesn't want to sell the game to you, store 'Y' will. They don't pay much attention to the games rating, they just want to sell their games.

We're getting a bit abroad. Didn't mean to bring this here to discussion, so please keep ontopic from now on.

I think a good way to sum this all up is that there is jack sht we can do about it. Unless we are willing to fund the website ourselves the guy who owns the server will use the quickest and easiest way to get money ie: no strings sex adds and dodgy links to free mobiles and porn. end of descussion

Well what is gonna be my first post on these forums is kinda sad and i would like it to be something happier but...

You suggested to use Adblock, but every user with adblock, since today gets a popup asking him to disable it, that's very sad and disappointing

I know you need ads to run the site, but "forcing" people to see them isn't the solution.

I check the main page for the latest addons at least once a day if not more,

As long as that message comes up like once in a month or every two weeks it isn't really a problem, but if it comes everyday it will be a serious annoyance,

Basicly, what i want to know is:

Is that "popup" definitive?
will it popup every single day, at every single access to the main page for the years to come?

thanks for the explanation

P.S.

Halelo there Carver

Firefox's latest build

Adblock plugin + Adblock plus plugin

Both if logged in or not (I registered to ask about this)

It started today

Screenie

Hey

Yes i'm working on a script that shows this popup to people using adblock-like extensions.



Other solution would be to ask a paying subscription to be able to access or download from the site... I think ads aren't that annoying after all! Or maybe you have another solution, so tell it to me!
Well yes I suppose you will say that best solution is that I continue to pay for the server without getting any kind of small fund back...

You have to understand that bypassing ads on free websites will bring free websites to an end. Firefox being more and more popular as well as adblock extension, people seeing and clicking on ads are decreasing. I don't speak just for our website but for all websites. Of courses some sites are annoying when they are too many popups or "interstitial" ads floating on the screen, but some other sites (like our) try to just show ads in horizontal and vertical banners.


Yes, as long as you keep adblock activated for our site, because as I said blocking ads that are just shown in non intrusive way (I mean no popups) isn't really fair.

Too bad, was a nice site

Oh well luckily there are other sites with daily updates


That wouldn't work since luckily there are other sites


I'll tell ya if I can think of something, nothing for now

Please noone try to convince me to disable adblock
I have been a noobish IE user for years with a computer so filled with spywares and pages so filled of ads that often it was faster to reboot than closing all the popups (seems like a metropolitan legend but it's true, i was a true PC noob back then)
Trying to convince me of the opposite will probably lead to flaming, which really i don't want to do on a such nice forum

Sorry if I seems rude, but there's really no problem, both of us will keep living even if i move to another site
I will still check the site every once in a while, just like, once a week intead of many times everyday

I don't mind the advertisements personally they aren't intrusive I just visited the homepage and though oh that's what he meant. Be thankful here isn't paid for with those zone adsl ads like at ofp.info... It's toatally up to you where you chose to get your news though.

If [a few small ads] disturb your leeching pleasure, you should indeed try your luck somewhere else.

Yes of course. I'm sure that other sites will do it one day or the other anyway, for the reasons I gave to you.

If you have 5 minutes to waste, read this interresting article:

http://www.populartechnology.net/2005/03/w...e-internet.html

Time is (nearly) never lost reading.

I know it already, and I know I am egoist, but that's how I am.

I'm just a Ads hater, call me an "Ads racist" if you like

If there was another way to avoid ads without damaging you apart leaving the site i would use it
But some people get mad for little things, and one of those are ads for me (as may be people who use the cellphone in autobusses and scream like they're on fire just to make a stupid example)

I don't like ads either, but they are necessary. it's easy to authorise ads on a particular website with adblock by the way. Did you really check the ads that are shown on our website? It's really not that much. And when you want to download a file you can do it directly from the news, while most other websites force you to go to a special download page where ads banner are just next the download link.
If all people were like you, not willing to make a paypal support or accepting to see ads on the top of web pages, a lot of websites would have to close... it's like sawing the tree branch you're sitting on...

I know one that has no ads but i think it wouldn't be nice to post it (though this one was the clearest one so far)

BTW

Why ads have to be on TOP?
can't they be on the bottom?

I wouldn't notice them that way unless i scroll down (i looked at the pic the moderator gently posted and i seen only that ad at the top)

eh you found yourself the reason... if it's not noticeable, no one would see them then click on it! That's why as I said a lot of sites are putting them just above downloads links!
I don't know how much other sites are spending but I doubt they have 2 servers to pay like we're doing!

Ehm.... You expect people to click on ads?

Sorry but that's pretty... emh... improbable?

What if I get a page costumizer plugin (I'm sure i saw one)

and move the ads to the bottom just for me?

I'm sure this has been mentioned, but considering my recent troubles with the TV Liscencing company, I'm all for the ads.

They aren't that annoying, they're just there. If you don't want them you should free free to suggest to you're government to get an internet liscence, which will cost you around $400 every year and you'd still get ads on foriegn pages. Oh! And the best part is other people from countries that don't have this liscence are free to view your pages without Ads! Isn't it great?

Sorry, I'm digressing. The point is, the ads are there, they aren't huge, they aren't particularly annoying, they don't take half an hour to load and they aren't particularly obstructive either. If they weren't there, you'd either be paying money to Cervo to keep the website running (the potential for profit here is amazing!) or there'd be no website. Or you'd be living in some sort of screwed up socialist dystopia and we'd have a huge banner at the top of the page that continually flashes and blurts out hugely audable party propaganda. If you don't listern to or look at this banner you get sent to the Gulag. I know which of the options I prefer.

Lol?

I am just saying that i don't want to see it, so i don't risk to click on it and get teleported on a spyware filled page.

If i write armedassault.info i want to see that,
not be on the lookout for getting teleported to spyware land

Where do you see spywares... ? You can disagree with the fact of seeing these ads but it doesn't give you the right to write nonsense and false accusations. If you can't live with the small ads because you're too egoist, then yes, you should go to another website!

I work in security, the issue for me is not the Ad's but the threat of a 3rd party i dont trust.

I trust this website, but i dont trust the Suppliers of the ads.
There are to many ways that a computer can be attacked via the ads, blame the smelly Russian hackers for that.

Its a very real threat that ads can compromise your computer, thats why i block them.

Its also why at my place of work they are also blocked, as part of the Security Policy.

Yes maybe I expressed myself bad, my english isn't too good, i meant what Toje sais

I totally agree with him apart the russian hackers thing

The ads comes from Google Ads... And personnally, I trust the site and the ads. I think Google ads are the ones which present the smallest risk of sending you to a page infected by spyware or other kinds of virus...

And I understand perfectly what Cervo has done. I use Adblock and I usually disable it for the sites I do appreciate, in order to support them by cliking on their ads...